Latest on Planned TRICARE Prime Rollback

February 21, 2013 | Terry Howell

By Tom Philpott – 

The TRICARE Management Activity has a new online tool for retirees under age 65 and surviving spouses to verify if their Prime network will end Oct. 1, forcing them to use TRICARE Standard.

With the new fiscal year, managed care networks operating beyond 40 miles of military treatment facilities or base closure sites will be halted under next-generation TRICARE support contracts.  The change, to impact 171,000 beneficiaries, is intended to cut TRICARE costs for taxpayers.

At the TRICARE Prime Service Area website, TRICARE users can type in their zip code and learn whether their Prime service area will exist after Sept. 30.  They also can find contact information for contractors and can sign up for email alerts on additional changes planned to Prime service areas.

[Editor’s Note: Thanks to one of our readers, the following excerpt from a recent DoD article may help some of the possibly affected retirees:

The new contracts limit Prime networks to regions within a 40-mile radius of military treatment facilities and in areas affected by the 2005 base closure and realignment process, she explained. But provisions will allow Prime beneficiaries who see providers outside the 40-mile service area to remain in Prime if they reside within 100 miles of an available primary care manager [Military Treatment Facility] and sign an access waiver, she added.” 

This Primer Access Waiver is for those who live within 100 miles of a Military Treatment Facility – i.e. military base.

Read the full DoD article at http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?ID=118969  or Click here to learn more about acccess or travel waivers.]

Read Tom Philpott’s ‘Military Update’ to learn how this will affect each of the three TRICARE regions.

Let your elected officials know how you feel about the cutting of TRICARE Prime.

About Terry Howell

Before becoming the Managing Editor for Military.com, Terry served 20 years in the U.S. Coast Guard as an Aviation Electrician’s Mate and aircrewman. In his final role in the Coast Guard, Terry served as a Career Development Advisor, where he provided career, finance, education, and benefits counseling to servicemembers and their families. Since retiring from the Coast Guard, Terry has authored the book, The Military Advantage, managed the content for TurboTap, the DoD's online transition program and VAforVets, the VA's transition assistance website. Terry earned both his Bachelor's and MBA at Corban University using Military Tuition Assistance and his GI Bill benefits to help cover the cost.

Comments

  1. Reloader 2011,

    "Officials Announce TRICARE Prime Service Area Changes

    The new contracts limit Prime networks to regions within a 40-mile radius of military treatment facilities and in areas affected by the 2005 base closure and realignment process, she explained. But provisions will allow Prime beneficiaries who see providers outside the 40-mile service area to remain in Prime if they reside within 100 miles of an available primary care manager and sign an access waiver, she added."

    http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?ID=1

    • So if we got deployed over 40 miles from our assigned base we should get an increase in benefits?

      • Hey maybe CON-gress should be limited to no private clinic on the hill and actually have them make an appointment. Move out the military employees serving that clinic and replace them with civilians that CHARGE them and make their treatment bills transparent?

        • idmedic,

          They pay $503.00 annually for that, and that clinic has been around since 1928 and the Congressmen aren't the Clinic's only Mission.

          PS: This has not a thing to do with Tricare.

          • Your missing the overall picture again as usual. Some don't pay for that service but receive it anyway. Specialist are BROUGHT in at no cost and if referred the question of insurance is not brought up. Read the ABC article and tell us how transparent that operation is. If you think they pay 500 dollars a year for what they get your living a dream. First off why would they pay for this service if they already have health insurance policy? Explain that? Seems to me ALOT of employees are less than open about how it functions. A freedom of information act is a good way to flush that out and I am going to persue it.

          • Idmedic, Part 1

            "Your missing the overall picture again as usual."

            No, not missing anything, because they (Congressmen) perks have nothing to do with the subject, not one iota. Trust me, always bringing Congressmen and their perks up does nothing for your want of change.

            "Some don't pay for that service but receive it anyway."

            Not true, they have been paying a fee since October of 1992, and those that don't pay but use the service find that the fee is withheld from their salaries and remitted to the U. S. Treasury (by law).

            "Specialist are BROUGHT in at no cost and if referred the question of insurance is not brought up."

            This is another false statement. The treatment they recieve is NOT free and for inpatient care, they are billed the full reimbursable rater. Their health insurance (for which they must also pay) may cover these expenses after a deductible and co-payment are met.

            What ABC article? And just why does ABC know more than I can look up on the Internet.

          • idmedic, Part 2

            "If you think they pay 500 dollars a year for what they get your living a dream."

            Ohhhhh, so ABC is telling the truth, and the Government Documents are lying to me when they say they do pay $503.00 annually?

            "First off why would they pay for this service if they already have health insurance policy?"

            Sorry, but that is just a plain stupid question.

            "Seems to me ALOT of employees are less than open about how it functions."

            Bull, I've been able to find everything you're claiming as wrong doing and I've busted your ideas.

            "A freedom of information act is a good way to flush that out and I am going to persue it."

            Go ahead, don't really care what you do, but the information is out there, not hidden and on the internet. You just can't find the real truth.

          • Ohhh I see so ONLY YOUR information is correct. Not like FOX NEWS DID THIS ARTICLE. ABC and try that one sided view you have and see the other possible, omg POSSIBLE problems with this operation. Your thoughts remind me of the "French Model" commercial …..lmao

          • idmedic,

            Yes, you are correct, the information I posted is fact, but you would be wrong saying only my information is correct.

            Evidently, you have failed to debunk what I have posted, so for you, it's go after the source. I don't want to argue with you. Please, post a rebuttal or just go away.

          • Lmao, and you have debunked what? You responded to an article you didn't read. Or did your research debunk their claims. I am sure you have had time to research by now….lmao

          • idmedic,

            No, I responded to what you posted, and quoted you, not ABC.

            LMAO

          • I guess you need to research more then. Mmmmm. So ABC IS LYING? Dam facts? Remember my quote about stats? You use them like a drunkard using a light pole, for support rather than illumination………use them as you will but for ever stat there is a reason and or variation of the info used behind them and it is usually if not often to support the claims of the researcher trying to validate an idea or conclusion. The stats don't make it fact.

          • idmedic,

            "I guess you need to research more then. Mmmmm. So ABC IS LYING? Dam facts?"

            You already stated that I didn't read the ABC Article, so how can ask me if ABC is lying?????

            I don't know, I guoted what you posted, nothing the about the ABC Article which I and you both stated I didn't read. I guess if anyone is lying, then it must be you.

            What he heck does stats have to do with chit, or is this your segway into something that has nothing to do with the SUBJECT above?????

            LOL

          • Well guess it's time to read the article and decide what is government fact or ABC FACTS. Then we can compare FACTS. if your google is broken then apparently only the government sites work.

          • idmedic,

            I don't need to read the ABC News article because you posted there key lies, which I then proceeded to debunk them all.

            Feel free to post the US Code showing me as not telling the truth.

      • idmedic,

        No.

    • Reloader 2011 says:

      Read my comment below! Then call Tricare your self

  2. What about people that are over 65? I am 100% disabled vet and have an autistic son who is 12. Do I lose TRICARE PRIME for him?

    • John, 40 miles is for everyone. Might want to write some letters and fast. Not that it will help but it certainly won't hurt.

  3. Nice info, now explain WHY this is necessary to CUT benefits for those living beyond 40 miles?

    • idmedic,

      Here, I will repost that link again.

      Source:

      http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?ID=1

      • Again why is it necessary to cut benefits for 40 miles?

          • Did our contract say our benefits were limited to how close we live to a military facility after retirement? I miss that somewhere in the fine print? I forgot, check with my local reps, not the government.

          • idmedic,

            We have talked about many times before, and you have acknowledged that Health Care is NOT and was NOT in the Enlistment nor the Reenlistment Contract!

            "However, at no time were military retirees provided an entitlement to care."

            http://mrgrg-ms.org/crs1006e-the-issue-of-promise

          • Then why are we discussing this and your benefits are mute also. Why don't we have civilian benefits? If your argument is that we have no case then why are YOU enjoying the benefits? If you are not privy to those benefits why are you taking advantage of them? Seems to me if you are going to make the governments argument then you should take the benefits you are arguing over. If our benefits aren't legal then I guess you should give yours up. Anytime your ready, give up what you have because YOU didn't pay for it, as you have said.

          • idmedic, Part 1

            "Then why are we discussing this and your benefits are mute also."

            We're only discussing this because you think it will help your cause.

            "Why don't we have civilian benefits?"

            We, let me speak for myself, I don't have what you call civilian benefits because I've chosen to sign on with TRICARE.

            "If your argument is that we have no case then why are YOU enjoying the benefits?"

            Duh, you don't have a case because the case was lost in 2003. Now, I'm enjoying Tricare because I'm retired military and allowed to do so.

            "If you are not privy to those benefits why are you taking advantage of them?"

            I am privy!

            "Seems to me if you are going to make the governments argument then you should take the benefits you are arguing over."

            The Government made their own argument, and I made my choice to sign up for Tricare.

          • idmedic, Part 2

            "If our benefits aren't legal then I guess you should give yours up."

            Aren't legal, where in the world did you get that. The further you go, the further from the beaten path you get.

            "Anytime your ready, give up what you have because YOU didn't pay for it, as you have said."

            I am paying for it, $22.44 per month.

          • Hey I'm just the messenger here, you have a beef, take it up with several HUNDRED thousands of veterans.

          • idmedic,

            LMMFAO, so now you're speaking for hundreds of thousands of Veterans?????

            You need to come down off your pedestal and take off your crown or explain why you think you're the President of Veterans.

          • Or the spokesman for CON-gress….lmao

  4. Reloader 2011 says:

    I have been told by Tricare that there is no change to those who have signed the mileage waiver. This is another scare tactic. If you don't believe me call Tricare and they will explain it to you. I called them!

    • Try digging a little deeper. This waiver is for those living within 100 miles of a Military Treatment Facility PCM.
      http://www.triwest.com/en/beneficiary/tricare-ben

      For the over 100K of us living outside the 100 Mile radius, the Prime rollback is more than a scare tactic.

      • Reloader 2011 says:

        There are no bases in my state pal. Call Tricare. I signed the waiver back in 2007 when they stated the same thing then

        • I wish you well. Pal. But for the 171K of those who are somehow not as lucky as you. Here is a link which fully explains (from TRICARE) what will happen on Oct. 1, 2013: http://www.tricare.mil/Welcome/MediaCenter/Curren

        • Reloader 2011,

          So you're saying this waiver stuff is really anything, and started back in 2007?????

          • The point is WHY are they making this rule. The reason is to decrease availability and save money. Now compare that to the charts given on the zombie thread and explain it. Quoting a source does NOT explain the reason behind it. Why not just come out and say that retired veterans are not deserving of their benefits and we are not entitled to any consideration for our sacrifice. Why not just say that serving your country is worth the same as civilian insurance. No promise was made and congress says we are given this as a privaledge. What's the legal problem? If veterans have no legal standing for anything CON-gress tells us to do and they make the laws then just do it. The contract should state that you will serve your country and at the risk of death be afforded the benefits that are within budget during a certain period of time. Benefits are on a sliding scale.

          • idmedic,

            The point has already been explained, not going over it again. Got a beef, talk to Congress, I'm just the messenger here.

          • A messenger is usually sent by the originator? Either your a congressional aide wannabee, a delusional self absorbed congressman, or just THINK your helping veterans. Which is it?

          • idmedic,

            Do you have anything to say, or is it that you just want me to argue with you? You need to move on.

          • Ok so denial is another option. You can't be THE messenger without a message. Apparently CON-gress needs your help. Is that right? Your THE messenger?

      • I agree this waiver policy has been in effect for some time. In my case I was using Randolph AFB Hospital, over 40 miles from my home, I was given the option to lose Tricare Prime or request a waiver, I signed the waiver this was back in 2009. Much later I was able to enroll at Fort Sam, BAMC…..

  5. J. Swanberg says:

    I'm appauled. Just more broken promises after I served my country for over 26 years. Our government is an embarrassment. This nation isn't what it once was and if we continue going down this path, we'll fall apart. I read an article that stated that "retired military families don't deserve anything more than the rest of America, they're no different." I beg to differ. Whoever wrote that is a complete moron who obviously failed to serve his/her country. This makes me sick as we have no say in it what so ever.

    • J. Swanberg,

      Sir, recruiters can't make promises like that. This case went as high as the Supreme Court and was lost in 2003.

      "However, at no time were military retirees provided an entitlement to
      care."

      Source:

      http://mrgrg-ms.org/crs1006e-the-issue-of-promise

      • Then why are YOU GETTING IT? If we are not entitled to it then they should raise the fees. Wait a minute,WOW, your right, let's raise the fees and cut out those veterans that really need it or eliminate it all together. I get it now. MEDICAL was not part of the enlistment contract or re-enlistment contract. Anytime you are willing to give it up then do it. Why is it so hard for YOU to give it up? You just posted that at no time was military retirees provided an entitlement to care. So your enjoying this benefit but think we don't deserve it? Why aren't YOU paying more if you can afford it? You talk about how well you have it but give nothing back to your government or veterans!. If officers are to pay more then why not CON-gress. Tiered system my as#. YOU are the drain on the system and lecture vets on benefits?….lmao. Your financial planning will be shared with all of us soon enough…….success is a bitc#, now share the wealth. Welcome to Obama Care.

  6. In this article I can't find anything about cutting Welfare; Aid to illegal Aliens and Medicaid .Also what about cutting financial care for women who have had so many children out of Wedlock? The number out of Wedlock children should be set at two it is just possible two children could be a mistake. You have to look at this this way, they all voted for our Fearless Spender in Chief, with the possible exception of illegal aliens. (Because they are non-Citizens.) They will be allowed to continue to suck at the government teat we have earned our medical care; and have paid for it in advance, with at least 20 years of honorable military service. On the other hand I guess we military retires just have to get their priorities straight

    • Coho 1938,

      There is nothing in the above about Welfare, Aid to illegal Aliens and Medicaid and all the rest of what you posted, because one has nothing to do with the other.

      If Government always had to fix what one of us thought needed done before the other, the Government would never get to the problem at hand, but instead fixing what thousands of us sent to them complaining that this and that needed fixing before this and that.

    • Actually, all retirees not just 20 year retirees are entitled to Tricare…

  7. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't even matter. They're going to do what they want to do and the men and women who fought for this country will never have a say in anything! They may have a say but no one is going to listen. How very sad.

    • Karen, check out this FACT.
      Q. Does the IRS pay billions in tax refunds to workers who are in the U.S. illegally?
      A. Yes- The treasury dept IG determined that 4.2 BILLION was paid in 2010, up from less than I BILLION IN 2005. Leading democrats are resisting a bill that will stop future payments.
      Now compare that cost to veterans and retirement benefits? See anything wrong with this picture? Not millions but BILLIONS.

      • Wondering where Charles is on this one? Any way that this money should be used to fund Tricare, veterans care, wounded warriors? What we need is a messenger to bridge the gap. Anyone know somebody that could help our veterans?

  8. We the Vet/Retire and disabled Vet need to take a lesson out of M L Kings book and organize a march on the Capital. They won't listen until we jamm it down there throat, like they do to us.
    P.S. Bring the family, BUT PLEASE DON'T LET John Kerry or Sen Hagel know were coming

    • Right, veterans never seem to agree on who to elect, so how can they agree on a march on DC.. And remember the last time there was a march on DC. McArthur, fired on the Veterans.. it would happen again, and the government would just explain it away like they do everything else….

  9. So basically, we'll have two classes of retirees: those with a choice of Prime or Standard, and those without the choice. Another broken promise.
    While I go to the VA, my family cannot. That would help to alleviate the costs.
    I've also read that the cost of providing military care to retirees (aka TRICARE) continues to go down.
    TRICARE Young Adult (TYA) is a farce. They don't "continue on their parents' policy" as in Obamacare, it's a completely separate policy for them. It cost 4X what I pay for TRICARE Prime for the family. I can't pay it via an allotment from my retirement check. They won't send a bill. It has to come from his/her bank account. It was cheaper to use his college medical plan.

    • Actually, when it comes to veterans and classes.. just look around not all veterans even those from the same wars are entitled to the same exact benefits. The government has divided veterans into different classes for years…. this is nothing new…

    • Doug,

      "When Tricare was implemented in 1996, working-age retirees and their dependents were expected to contribute 27 percent to the cost of their health care; today, that figure has fallen to 11 percent. Retirees over the age of sixty-five pay nothing for their plan, Tricare for Life. Yet, this group represents the highest per capita cost; in 2007, more than half of DoD health-care expenditures went to Tricare for Life beneficiaries."

      Source:

      http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/the-truth-

      • Doug, your ignorant too. Retirees pay over $100 a month for Medicare just to be able to get Tricare. That's right the law makes us pay for Medicare Part B.. just to keep Tricare…. so were not getting anything for nothing….

  10. Not only does Tricare Screw the Retired Vet but also the VA get us too my last visit to the VA went from $15.00 to $50.00 this is totally unfair and a breach of contract with Vets that were promised Care for life upon retirement.

  11. This rule has been in place for years. When the retirees initially enrolled in PRIME, the TRICARE office would tell the retirees they had the option of getting a network provider near their home or driving the 40-100 miles to the nearest military treatment facility for care. The retirees that opted for a network provider usually couldn't find one so alot of them paid out of pocket costs……sounds like more civilian providers aren't taking on TRICARE patients

    Every retiree(and family)is automatically on Standard which is basically the old "CHAMPUS"……we old timers know how well this worked for retirees and their dependants!!

    • angeleyesih says:

      Please read the article. They have re-negotiated contracts for tricare providers only within a 40 mile radio us of an MTF. When my husband retired and we moved to PA we enrolled in tricare prime and we are no where near an MTF. It has nothing to do with the providers not accepting. Itnhasbto do with the government continually screwing with the military.

  12. Namvet: This country will be judged on how well it treats its Veterans. Don't think other countrys are not taking notice. For a country to fall, all it has to do is make second class citizens of the Patriotic men and women who gave there all for love of country. To split the country between the cream of the crop of society and the loafers, and complainers who would not lift a finger for the country is plane stupid. Together we stand and divided we fall. The doomsayers who think the country will forever treat them well, may well be in for a shock. The elite (they think) will fall the hardest should this country go down. What you do to the best citizens in a country is the future in the end for that country. God bless all our service and especiaaly the VETS

    • Namvet,

      I too am a Nam Veteran and I got everything I thought I would get when I retired. I also think most Vets are more than satisfied with the Volunteer Service they chose.

  13. Get used to it. There was a time when military members encouraged their children to join the military. I can truly say those days are gone. They made some of the best in the military because they were brought up in the environment from birth. I was not one of those, I came in from the outside so mine is just an observation. However getting back to my point, I've done everything to keep my college educated children from taking one step into or even consider service to our country. If they do I've made them very aware of not believing a word of the promises that roll off their lying lips. Guys/Gals we would be better off if we renounced our citzenship left the country and then sneak back in. We'll be taken care of then as illegals are better off than we are goung to be.

  14. It is once again futher proff thatour goverment cares nothing for the people that protect there "butts", while they sit back and rep $$$ at our expence.
    For instance there are 1000's of us who have served 20 or more years on active service… and still do not have a GI Bill of any type.

  15. TRICARE standard is like no healthcare at all. You can hardly find decent healthcare providers that accept TRICARE. Most that accept TRICARE, are in questionable areas of town and have trashy offices. No one likes to take TRICARE because it doesn't pay and the red tape drives everyone crazy. This action is really amounting to the government taking away healthcare benefits to 171,000 retirees and defaulting on the promise for healthcare to retirees. Using the term roll back doesn't change the facts. It is no roll back, it is elimination.

  16. Forcing the veterans who served there country for most of their adult lives to buy their own insurance! Just what Obama wanted in the first place !!

    If every veteran and their family member doesn't contact their representatives and bitch then you get what you deserve!! I’ve written several letters already and getting ready to fire off a few more !! I got nothing but time !!

    • I AGREE WE SHOULD ALL FLOOD THE OFFICES OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. I HAVE WRITTEN SEVERAL LETTERS ALSO. THE ONLY REPLY I GET FROM ANY OF THEM IS A JOKE. THEY ALL ASSURE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR RETIRED MILITARY. WE NEED SOME ACTION NOT A LOT OF LIES.

  17. Proud soldiers wife says:

    But let us support the drug addicted, failure to thrive/work citizens and give them our full attention of Welfare and good insurance to boot. Does no one else see this as a huge problem?! I am sickened there are women without their husbands, children without their parents, parents without their children for what reason? To protect this country and any cost with their life if need be. And we as a nation founded on pride and freedom allow this? Our veterans and family members deserve the world. We are such a back sliding country anymore. It devastates me.

    • I spent 22 years in the Marines and retired in 1984. I"m almost 70 now and how can they do this to us..Is tricare for life the same as tricare for life.. I have written to my elected officials but nothing in return.. For sure they will not get another vote from me..

  18. So they are taking away health care for military retirees in order to pay for ObamaCare? Why doesn't the press report on this??

  19. I just moved to Dallas, looks like I will have to now move to an area where there is a base, no jobs but who cares, we only gave 20 years of our lives for what? Broken promises….thanks Obama

  20. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-ta

    I started this petition, PLEASE, sign it and get it out to friends and family, OR, start your own petition. We need to fight back.

  21. I'm a retired military wife and I'm so appalled about this new law. We will be affected by it. I just wrote our elected officials. I encourage everyone to do this, just so they know we are so not okay with this.

  22. Just curious, have you used standard? I recently retired and chose standard so I could actually have choices. My wife had medical problems that military doctors have been miss diagnosing for years. We are finally able to see specialist of our own choosing without having to wait for referrals and so far we haven’t even spent as much as the prime enrollment fee cost. I am very satisfied with standard. Just my 2cents.

    • We have active duty Tricare and I chose standard as well. It is only slightly more expensive for us and well worth it! Instead of paying a co-pay to see a primary doctor so that they can give us a referral, then go to the specialist and pay another co-pay… we are able to go straight to the specialist and as long as they are in network we only pay 15% of the approved cost. Usually cheaper than the 2 co-pays would have been and we don't have to beg the mercy of anyone to see the specialist.

      • Hi The key word is Approved cost Example. You go to the Doctor he charges $150.00 for the vist he then bills tricare for the $ 150.00 .
        Now Tricare says allowed charge for his Service is $ 75.00 Based on a National Average for that Service. The Doctor is allowed to bill you for the difference The $75.00 becomes your out of pocket cost.Well how do I know this you see I am a Disabled Vietnam Vet living on Long Iand In New York. In 30 years on Tricare Standard I have spent over $ 40,000 on charges fr my care that where over the allowed charges that Tricare Standard paid. Also, many doctors refuse to treat Standard Patients because they get paid so little.I call Tricare Standard the NO insurance coverage.Now under Tricare Prime ,The Doctor has to accept the allowable charge otherwise they can not accept Medicare Patients this is why Becomes the better plan than Standard BUT it costs the gov't way more Money . That's why they came out with this plan to save Money the only Solution is try to be within the 100 mile area. When you turn 65 you fall under Tricare for Life and this works along side Medicare so all Doctors will take this because Medicare pays first Follwed by Tricare. So you see instead of the money coming out of the right pocket it comes out of the left pocket , this is all so Stupid. Thank you for allowing me to explain my life under Tricare Standard.Tom

    • I second that thought. When I moved to the Midwest from Florida, prime was not available. My family has been using standard and we have been very happy with the program.

    • I use Tricare standard and have never come close to paying the enrollment fees for prime.
      Standard ids better more choices less hassle

  23. I am not a Native American, but now I sort of know what it feel's like, when the Government promise you something, and when it best service their need, that turn around and take it back. I was promise that if I enter the Service and do my 20 years, that I would be free Health Care for Live. Now we have to pay for it. Granted it's not near as expensive as Health Care for non-military. But still now if you live out side of 40 miles, they want to give you a cheap MMO, which no Doctor wants. We need to bring a Class Action Law Suite against the Government, for Breach of Contract. Or what ever they want to call it. Nothing but Bull. You know what.

  24. Let me get this stright…they are cutting out our Tri Care Prime for our family members to "cut the cost to the tax payers"? What the hell does that mean. First of all I was promiced medical care for my spouce if I stayed 20 years and second I don't ever remember getting a damn pay check that I didn't pay taxes while I was in the military. What we have now in Washington is a bunch of anti military people both Democrat and Republicans along with a President who is and has been promoting a Socialist way of life. The U.S. Constitution is ignored "WE THE PEOPLE" hasen't been considered or listened to in the past four years. Our country is in grave danger, our military is no longer able or prepared to defend the United States, we have lost our world credit rating, and those that HATE us which are many are constantly being praised by someone who calls himself "President". We as a country are no longer "THE" super power and we are not feared by anyone especially those who dispise us. What is wrong with the American people? Those of us who give a dam are but a small minority to those who seem to be blind and dumb. Writing letters, making phone calls, sending e-mails to our Senators and Congressmen does nothing. Maybe it's time we need to have a "SPRING Uprising" in this country to get all those crooks up in Washington something to think about. Our freedoms who millions of Father, Mothers,Sons, Daughters, Aunts and Uncles have fought, bleed and died for is being taken away day by day and no one is doing anything about it. What kind of people have we become?

    • I agree with you. Tired of broken promises. We gave the best years of our lives for our counter…to now be betrayed. I personally am ready for this wave to come. We just need the right leaders…I hope our Generals see through this wave of bullshit and get something going. Worried about these FEMA camps and the Goverment buying billions of rounds of ammo? hmmmmmm

    • You are so right. We keep hearing that we need to do something but no one is telling us what we can do. You're right, contacting out worthless over paid elected officials in Washington does no good. I think about 90% of them are in Obama's pocket or they are afraid to go against him. I don't know what we can do. We kept hearing, vote him out of office. That might have worked if it had been a legal election but there was nothing legal about it in 2008 or 2012. He and his crooked cronies in the senate are already trying to figure out a way for him to have a third term. He scares the hell out of me and I feel helpless. My husband was in the military for over 25 yrs and has been retired since 1984 so I know what our active duty and retirees are going through. Before long I expect all medical benefits to be taken away from the military. It is a sad state we are in and I don't know how we are going to get out of it. I love this country and it breaks my heart to see what is happening to it. I have 5 grandchildren and I worry about what kind of country they are going to have to live in. It's not going to be the same one I've lived in all my life that's for sure.

    • Bill,

      Recruiters cannot promise you free health care for life, they have never had that kind of power.

      This case went has high as the Supreme Court and the case was lost 2003. People need to get over this and move on.

      • Don't tell us to get over this and move on. The Kelo decision was wrong, the Dred Scott decision was wrong, and the ObamaCare decision was wrong. The Supreme Court makes mistakes.

      • it is easy to get over and move on. i dont know your background but, when you put in 36 yrs and then when it is time to collect you are being told, oh! that, hmmm sorry, not really, you are not getting it! yeah right, get over and move on!

      • It wasn't just recruiter SAYING it, it was on promotional brochures handed out by recruiter and printed by the Government Printing Office for the Dept of Defense. If the federal government wasn't truly promising it, they should have exercised enough oversight to stop the lies. if not, they need to keep their promise morally no matter what the legal requirements are.

  25. Interesting how Obama care private insurance scam is going to affect everybody as the end deal is to force all people that earn a living into buying private insurance affordable or not.

    Still I my husband and I have been on prime for over 10 years, now we see the results of so call "tax payers saving" even when we are tax payers still, higher premiums, more copay payments and service equal to Medicaid, at least Medicaid is free.

    That is what the overall goal of cutting and nipping Tricare seems to be, you pay more get substandard services, now who is saving here, is no me or my husband that is for sure.

    • Medicare is not free, do a little reading .. Medicare cost just over $100 a month plus co-pays…..

  26. Roy Roberts CW4 ret. says:

    32 years served, 8years air force e-6, 28 years army cw4, 3 wars, retirement and medical benefits for self and family. Now tri-care prime costs increase, maybe gone,co-pays going up again.promises,promises, all broken.Have 2 sons soon to be military retired,what do I tell them? Who is going to be our future soldiers,I'll not lie to my grandsons.

    • You may end up paying more out of pocket with standard.
      Once you met their castrostophic amt. they pay more. That castrostophic is a yearly amt. It starts over I think every October. Check your explanation of benefits when you get your next insurance payment questions call your provider and they can tell you which works for you best. Ask for Benefits.
      or you get a real person if you ask for Customer Service.

  27. Enter text right here!The government treats the vets & their dependents like our forefathers treated the indians. Promise anything to get their way & break those promises when convenient. I encouraged my husband to make a career of the navy because whe both believed those promises. I am now 77 years old & have TRICARE FOR LIFE. That will be next to go. I wonder if all we old folks will be rounded up & put on reservations.

  28. And the POTUS and his cronnies have complete health care for the rest of the their lives!!

  29. Da President Obama needs to say Aloha! Good bye! and just get out off his sit in the White House and give it up to a better true man. That's what happen when this guy have NO military back bone!

    I served for 24 years in the U.S Army. Hooah!

  30. TRICARE rollback ? now that is an interesting spin. This is more than sugar coating, it is just wrong. TRICARE standard is not fit for your pets, let alone your family. No one in the upper echelons of the military have ANY idea what TRICARE standard is like. This is like being paid with three dollar bills. It is smoke and mirrors.
    The docs bill TRICARE, TRICARE sends the bill back to the Doc, The doc waits a year and both the doc and TRICARE tell you that you owe the money because the bill wasnt paid within a year. That is, IF, you can find a doc that accepts Tricare!

    • Dalt,

      So you have determined that Tricare Standard which is free is not fit for your pet. Let me just ask you what are you paying now since you moved in the Civilian world of Health Care?????

      • While Tricare Standard IS free, the copays are astronomically higher. For instance, instead of $11 per day for a hospital stay, you pay $535, a 4863% increase! In one fell swoop.

        How about needing an ambulance? Tricare Prime will run you $30. Tricare Standard sets you back approximately $274. And my eye exams that caught the cataracts forming in my eyes? Not covered under Tricare Standard.

        Quit being an antagonistic jerk.

  31. MSgt. John DeLallo says:

    You gotta be shitting me? Do you mean to tell me that you, yeah you, private Obama, are going to balance the fucking budget on the backs of 171,000 TRI-CARE Prime recipients? Is that what you're telling me? Commander in Chief my ass. I have more time taking a dump than you have total time in service. And to think I spent 20 years guarding the gates of Freedom so a piece of shit like you could sweet talk his way into the presidency. You make me want to puke.

  32. When Rumsfeld was SECDEF he fired most generals that were not YES men. Since that time it seems like Duty, Honor, Country has become to an extent, Me, Myself and I. So throw the retirees under the bus! TRICARE standard is sufficient to check the block saying healthcare is available.

  33. "TRICARE Prime Rollback" now that is like calling deployment orders to Afghanistan winning an all expenses paid vacation to a far off exotic place.

  34. Wow,

    We have many people who incorrectly blame these cuts on Obama. When in reality, the republicans (Thanks GW and friends) started us down this irresponsible spending road years ago. Now, the president has, wants and NEEDS to spend money to fix things and all he does is catch hell from the repubs in congress. The IGNORANT REPUBS are the problem. 2010.. The Tea Party cry babies about spending and all they want to do is CUT. So, all us government/federal workers and retirees have to accept the cuts and the REPUBS love it. VOTE DEMOCRAT!! Remember, rebubs hate government!

    • No Surprise Here says:

      You should lay off the mushrooms or whatever it is your taking and get your information straight. Obama has promised everyone all things… yes for political reasons, and now you (we) are going to pay for it. If you haven't noticed we have a little debt problem here that your party has contributed to. GW and friends have been gone for a long time and I notice you don't have one negative thing to say about how this administrations handling of things. Typical, lame, blame the Republicans. Your solution is to just trust in Obama because you are too ignorant to see that both parties are at fault. It is time for an independent party.

    • No it is the Clinton Administration that instituted these cuts. Dems hate the military, the Repubs fight for military. YOUR President is an ASS, Just like you. You know, all Democrats are Donkeys, right????? So I guess you need to act like an ass since your a Democrat. Keep drinking the kool-aid.

    • Wow, can I have some of that kool aid? Spoken like a true ignorant Obama ass kisser

    • Blame bush HUH?

    • Wait until you are off TriCare (if you are even on it) and begin paying Medicare. Your "boy" has some real surprises for you due to his "Affordable health Care Act." Feel like paying $400.00 a month for Medicare? You will, and you can thank Barry.

      • Mal Ware,

        Could you back this up with some links to the facts?????

        • So you support affordable healthcare "Obamacare" but feel that Veterans should not? How much do you think the average civilian will pay for "affordable" health care? Businesses are already moving to reduce hours to part time or just not pay for health insurance but instead pay the penalty. Just how much money will this plan cost the TAXPAYERS? You know, similar to what Tricare is costing them? Mmmmmmmm.

          • idmedic,

            I posted this: "Could you back this up with some links to the facts?????"

            Where in the world did you come up with your post to me.

          • Obamacare? Facts? The military is socialized medicine and affordable health care is?

          • idmedic,

            Still your posts have nothing to do with what I posted. Time for you to move on down the road and pick on someone else this evening.

          • Not picking on you Charles, if we are to get to your ideals regarding what YOU stand for outside of "links" then by all means talk. My impression is this. You support increased fees, you don't feel children of military should get benefits and that military should not have children period because they weren't issued. Most veterans are whiners and shouldn't complain about benefits because they volunteered and should be thankful for what they do get. You defend CON-gress but not the veterans because CON-gress earned their benefits because they pay into it and deserve it. Anything I get wrong? I could go on but you get the idea

          • idmedic,

            As I see, you wish to make this personal, go to my Yahoo Group and post a message:

            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MyMilitaryHistory/

          • Not meant to be personal, trying to get past that. Trying to understand your mindset and opinions in regards to your posts. I may just do that however to get this off the boards.

          • idmedic,

            I've been asking this of you seems like forever and day. Matter of FACT, the only reason I set up that Yahoo Group was so you could get all your guestions answered by going there and reading my DD Form 214 and 215, and then if you had questions, you could do this by using the Message Board.

          • I know you did and I also promised I would but only after "retiree" did it as well.. However, it's time to hash out some business. Sooo Charles I will do that and try and keep it civil. Too late tonight but look forward to the discourse. Maybe we can agree to disagree.

          • idmedic,

            LMAO, no, I don't care about "Obamacare", because I have Tricare. Anyway, none of what you posted answered the question I posted. This is the question I posted above, posted again below for you.

            "Could you back this up with some links to the facts?????"

      • Apparently you have no idea how Medicare works.

    • Too funny! Obviously a "low information" voter.

    • Do you really believe that member of congress are really going to give up anything. It's like the old joke " the Repubs. are holding up a bank and the Democ. are driving the get away car". Basically saying they are both crooks and I believe that very strongly. Our politicians are destroying this country rom the inside while stuffing their pockets. In the public they are enemies but behind closed dsoors they are laughing together all the way to the bank. It is a game that they must play to be reelected. The Demo storyline is that we must be a wefare state and the Repub. support the wealthy, it is all a game.

    • Sorry but Woodward reported on an interview with President Obama in 2011 that Obama was planning on cutting this along with the military budgets. They waited until after the election to roll this pile of manure out for all of the military retirees to see their promised benefits evaporate. Enforcer, you truly are a low information Obama supporter!!

      • Timyak,

        Recruiters can't promise us free health care for life. As you know, this went as high as the US Supreme Court, and the case was lost in 2003.

        There has never been an ENTITLEMENT of free health care for us Vets.

    • Another head in the sand person, go back and check, the DEMS have been in charge of the budget most of the time for the last 20 years, they want to raise taxes and raise taxes, keep voting democrat and soon you wont have a vote to cast

    • @ Enforcer: Wow, I see your are another Obamabot who hasn't bothered to search for the truth. Obama has spent more money in office than all the presidents throughout history combined. The game of blaming everything on Bush is getting old. When is Obama going to take responsibility for anything? Obama is the problem. We do need to reduce the size of government in certain areas, but not for those of us that worked all our lives to earn our benefits. You are so confused.

    • henry flores says:

      GW did more for the US than this so called commander in chief……

  35. Michael Parker says:

    I have seen eariler reports on this comming and have sent a letter to the "ELECTED OFFICALS" by using the option at the bottom of the report. I hope everyone that has made a comment here has used that same option, I have also made sure to forward the report to all my Military friends so they too could send in letter to the Elected officals, remember only the Squeaky Wheel get the grease…………. send in lots of letters to them…

  36. This is bull…t. The govt forcing more of their polical crap down our neck. Standard sucks!!!!

  37. This is not right!!!; WE THE PEOPLE; includes WE THE MILITARY and dependants of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…. or is it?
    We gave our lives and family to this great country- and this is what we get back? Cut backs!!. You the people of WA — get your head out of the sand; to say it nicely. and pray to God that you are putting US, the People in His hands and let Him guide your decisions. Do not cut back the military insurance choices and give us NO choice but to go Standard, or find your own insurance. Insurance won't pick up new patients and won't accept exsisting conditions. so where does that leave US retirees? Out in the cold. Obama keeps raising taxes, Tricare keeps raising our costs and enrollments; haven't you done enough damage to US who have served this country well and managed to survive only to get this type of life? Worries of cutbacks. Who voted to have him back another term? Oh, also the senate. YOU ARE NOT LISTENING… WE THE PEOPLE.- LISTEN…

  38. This what happens when people vote for John McCain–he suggested it and now it's actually happening

  39. Eric Schmidt says:

    I have written and lets say the responses are nothing but lip service. Anyone know of an MTF that will take a retiree and their dependents? I have asked three and was told to enroll in TRICARE as they had no room. MTFs on the whole have had their services rolled back or closed entirely. So much for promises. Didn't realize I and other veterans were a burden on the taxpayer.

    • Eric Schmidt, Part 2

      "So much for promises. Didn't realize I and other veterans were a burden on the taxpayer."

      Our country doesn't treat us like we are a burden. Just a quick check, and you would find that our Retirees are treated better in the U.S.A than any other country. As to the "Promise" you speak of, we lost that case in 2003 after it went as high as the Supreme Court.

      Source:

      Military Health Care: The Issue of “Promised” Benefits
      Updated January 19, 2006

      http://mrgrg-ms.org/crs1006e-the-issue-of-promise

      Where Does VA Stand Compared to Other Countries?

      "Our veteran benefits are world class by comparison to other countries."

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/14/where-doe

      • "we lost that case in 2003 after it went as high as the Supreme Court."

        And? It doesn't make it right. Just look at the Kelo decision.

        "Our country doesn't treat us like we are a burden."

        If you are blaming the deficits on veterans, they are out and out saying you're a burden.

        " Just a quick check, and you would find that our Retirees are treated better in the U.S.A than any other country."

        And our treatment is getting worse every day. I hope you read that article, it's pretty funny. An Op-Ed disguised as hard news. At least the author is good enough to admit that he is using outdated information in what is now an outdated article. Hey, maybe I can find an old 1920s news article about the great stock market…

        • And what other country deploys their military as frequently as ours and requires the level of sacrifice and time away from families….Most of them are barely able to deploy their forces…

        • jasamc,

          "And? It doesn't make it right. Just look at the Kelo decision."

          And nothing, continuing to bring it does nothing, nothing at. There is zero gain. Yes, I've heard of the Kelo Case, but that was about Eminent Domain, which again has nothing to do with some recruiter not being able to great you and I free health care for life."

          "If you are blaming the deficits on veterans, they are out and out saying you're a burden."

          No, the deficit isn't the fault of Veterans.

          "And our treatment is getting worse every day. I hope you read that article, it's pretty funny. An Op-Ed disguised as hard news. At least the author is good enough to admit that he is using outdated information in what is now an outdated article. Hey, maybe I can find an old 1920s news article about the great stock market.."

          Yes, may be old, but I see you haven't posted anything that would debunk or dispute said article. If you have information that differs from what he wrote, I'm willing to listen, just post it along with a link.

          • If you can't see the link I was making between Kelo, the Veteran's Promise case, and the others I listed…well, that's between you and your seeing eye dog.

            And you can say that the deficit isn't the fault of the veterans. Great, thanks. But that doesn't change what the politicians think. :"Health care costs are eating the Defense Department alive" Robert Gates. "The task force recommended gradually increasing the enrollment fees, deductibles, and co-pays paid by working-age retirees who elect to remain on Tricare.
            It suggested that these increases be tiered according to a retirees’ retirement pay, and that these fees be subject to future adjustment to preserve the cost-sharing balance originally established under Tricare.This approach would reduce the
            taxpayer’s burden while ensuring that military retirees of all income levels retain access to top quality care." americanprogress.org.

          • jasamc,

            Sorry, I see no link. I am sure if there were a meaningful link, it would have been brought up in the case we lost in 2003, 10 year ago.

            In no way do I think the Politicians feel Soldiers are responsible for the deficit.

            And yes, I agree that Health Care Cost are eating the up the DOD Budget. Just like Medicare and Social Security, something has to be done to keep the Military from becoming Benefit Company instead of an Army.

          • You are content, apparently, with not engaging in serious discourse, but instead, to advocate the party line being driven in DC. I wish that you were more forthright, but then your kind rarely is. Goodbye.

          • jasamc,

            I'm not advocating anything. It is you that want to pull Politic's into this debate.

            My "kind"????? This is standard to go into "attack mode" when you don't have an agrument. Should you want to discuss this, then discuss it, leave POLITIC'S out of this. If you can't back up your feelings, then why even post them?????

            Yeah, I know about "freedom of speech"!

          • You certainly are advocating. Make up your mind. If you would like to put up a "link" from a VETERAN ORGANIZATION then feel free to do so. I have not seen one from you yet. Of course you don't agree with what they stand for or belong to any so why would you? They are advocating for the rest of us. You dismiss, ignore and disagree, but don't tell us your not advocation the government position.

          • He just gave you the links. A meaningful discussion with you is like looking through a book of links. Apparently your google doesn't work for opposite opinions or FACTS as you call them.

        • idmedic,

          What does news about the Australian Retired Military have to do with this article about TRICARE?????

          LMAO Big Time

          • Our veterans are treated world class compared to other countries? They are doing the same to their veterans as the US is doing. Read it Charles and tell me what their argument is. Don't just say that there is no comparison if your going to compare the article from 10 years ago to what we have now.

          • idmedic,

            Move on.

    • "Yelp, but you be the one to call and check." Of course, he did, as you acknowledge in his second line, but please don't let that stop you from being a liberal (nicest pejorative I come up with without the censors jumping in).

    • Seems the DOD should look at things like the way over cost of the new F35 Fighter Jet that's almost doubled in cost instead of taking it away from vets that like me have built our budget around our health care. I would have been willing to pay more on the annual cost, I feel like Joseph in the Bible, the Presdent and Congress just threw us into the well to sell us to Egypt

    • My husband and I are retired with a dependent still living at home. Before Oct 1, 2012, we switched to USFH. Great plan. It's still Tricare Prime but better benefits. Do you happen to live in WA state? USFH is only available in 6 states at the moment. I asked our rep just the other day if any of the new rulings would affect us and he said no. Check into it!

    • We live in Hinesville, right outside Fort Stewart and have been seen by the MTF since 2004.

    • Beaufort Naval Hospital welcomed me with open arms when my Reserve retirement benefits kicked in at age 60 and have provided SUPERB care to me. When some of my blood work came back abnormal, my primary care provider investigated further with an ultrasound and a CT scan and diagnosed a kidney tumor. I am minus a kidney these days but still have my life and health thanks to Dr. Munson!

  40. Great. I have a better idea how about members of congress and the rest of the croonies, should get the same health care system. I

    There is a reason why members sign up for prime. Because they are actually seen and the BILL gets paid, and the service is better.

    • Greg,

      "Great. I have a better idea how about members of congress and the rest of the croonies, should get the same health care system."

      You have no idea what your saying. If you actually knew anything about their health care system, you should be ver, very, very glad you are under our system and not theirs. As it stands now, you and I fall under the best of Health Care Plans there are, Tricare.

      Source:

      Health Benefits for Members of Congress
      Ada S. Cornell
      Information Research Specialist
      May 3, 2012

      http://waxman.house.gov/sites/waxman.house.gov/fi

  41. MistahKurtzHeDead says:

    You ain't seen nothin' yet. This is just the beginning. As the Obama Administration continues to divert more and more money from the Middle Class to the Poor more Veterans Benefits will disappear. A Frog placed in Hot Water will immediately jump out. A Frog placed in Cold Water will stay and continue to stay as you gradually increase the heat until it is cooked. Obama is gradually increasing the heat on the American Frog People.

  42. As some of you have sent emails to our elected officials, I too did the same. I agree, they do send back a response but it was merely lip service. There was nothing of substance in their letters. Why do our elected officials continue to talk about giving criminals (illegal aliens) amnesty and spend BILLIONS of dollars every year on them and tell the military community to"suck it up". They use the tax payer as an excuse to continue to abuse the military but could care less about the taxpayer when it comes to the illegal aliens (who are criminals). Washington is truly broken. And as far as WE THE PEOPLE, it no longer exists. It is US THE GOVERNMENT. They are supposed to serve us, but it sure seems the other way around.

    • whf1957,

      "They use the tax payer as an excuse to continue to abuse the military but could care less about the taxpayer when it comes to the illegal aliens (who are criminals)."

      I've heard this everyday since I've been retired, and always ask the say question: What abuse are you talking about, please make a list!

      I do know this about our the history of military health care which shows that care provided to active duty members was originally paid for by the members far back as 1799. Now, look at what we have now.

      Source:

      Military Health Care: The Issue of “Promised” Benefits
      Updated January 19, 2006

      http://mrgrg-ms.org/crs1006e-the-issue-of-promise

    • Jay Vanderford says:

      Can't agree with you more, you can thank that traitor McCain, the other Jane Fonda of Vietnam, he has proposed and pushed every anti-military retiree agenda he is able to get away with. I seen this coming however, why did they take away the Tri-Care contract from the folks that were returning millions to the service members every year? because they hired an axe man, we will soon have nothing to show for our service to this country. Only criminals get free everything on our dime, cheers.

  43. Demand that all politicians use Military Troop Facality (active military take priority) or TRICARE while in office (provided they can find a doctor to accept them (if they do that doctor MUST accept military and retirees in the general area as well). Once they are out of office, they should fall back on Obamacare until they are 65 and then go on Medicare. Remember the constitution states "Congress shall not enact any law for themselves that do not apply to the general public". The way, I look at it is that there healthcare system is unconstitutional! IT THEY HAD TO FOLLOW THIS, WATCH HOW TRICARE WOULD BE PROTECTED!

  44. Now WE have learned. Don't vote for anyone that now
    holds an office again, I knoew it is to late for Obama, But Vote all Out and vote for a veteran.

  45. EdWASHBURN says:

    Re-elect nobody!

  46. Well so much for my children, huh?
    Thanks USAF for the f-ing again.
    It just never stops.
    They take and they take and they take…
    Hey active duty guys… it will happen to you too. Don't go feeling special.
    Do not count on any of the promises.

  47. From the Army Times Jan 10, 2013:

    "The Pentagon estimates the cuts will save the government $45 million to $65 million a year."

    That doesn't seem like a lot of money from the DOD budget. I bet the mileage distance will be reduced to 25 miles, then 15 miles, then just eliminated altogether over the next 20 years. It has to be done in small voting blocks.

  48. James thompson says:

    How does this impact Disabled Veterens that have reached the age of 65.

  49. I ran my zipcode and got: "you will: Use TRICARE Standard and Extra, which is consistently rated highly in beneficiary surveys. "

    Oh, ain't it sweet how they bullsheet me with how well it is rated. I don't care about the rating, as it is not tricare who is SEEING me, but is the one screwing up it being paid for. I do care about how much it is COSTING me. The promise of free healthcare went to paying for it, and now the government see's a way to pay less by charging us more. They made the promise, I met the requirements, it should not change.
    Give it time, they'll do away with this favor they think they are doing us, and we'll be stuck with no health insurance. Well, even that said, tricare is not insurance… another legal monicker that let's them get away with crap.

  50. Wayne D. Levens Sr. says:

    I would gladly pay more up front for Tri-Care prime (for my wife) than have to pay the required fees for Tri-care Standard. It seems like the older we get the more the Obama/McCain cronies think we are a burden. SHAME ON YOU John McCain! You have forgotten the men and women who served with you! I myself am on Medicare(which I pay for monthly) & Tri-Care for Life. I also thought that my country was going to take care of me after 20+ years of service. I do however feel lucky to have what I have compared to some of my neighbors.
    Most of the people serving(them selves) in Washington are millionaires who should not need any retirement or government sponsored retirement. They run on the preface that they want to do what is best for the the AMERICAN CITIZENS but seem to be more concerned about the ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country.
    Maybe we need to a show of force and MARCH ON WASHINGTON to show them how many voters they are screwing over! I know we are not supposed to buck the chain of command! (OBAMA – Commander and Chief) but I never let a senior Officer/NCO screw me when I was on active duty. There were always avenues of recourse.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA & ALL MY FELOW VETS. (SFC/RET.)

  51. annual checkups and preventive care? That used to be covered under Prime plus a co-pay, now its money out of pocket til deductible, then money plus "cost sharing" thereafter. What I was paying for Prime will more or less be lost to this plan very quickly. The government saves a few dollars so we can be robbed of many.
    But it is out government. Consistent and stealing, and at not doing its job of approving a budget, let alone gross mishandling of money.

    I am embarassed and borderline ashamed I defended it with my life for 27 years active duty.

    • What amazing is that the Obama administration is requiring health care for everyone else to provide preventive care free with no co-pay while (at the same time) increasing the cost for the same type of care for military retirees who actually served a career defending everyone else. That's shared sarifice for you.

  52. Pandora's box has been open. First they increased rates, and by law can up to our COLA each year. For 171,000 of us, that doesn't matter now, as that aspect has been stolen from us and now paying from our pocket continuously (more than under Prime) is forced upon us. The box is open, and things are gaining speed. What next year? Taking Standard? Doubling Prime for those few soles who are by an installation? And then what, close more installations? Force them off Prime?

    No disrespect to those who are by an installation, but why the double standard? Why can they get it but we can't? Prime is prime – they can be seen off base under the coverage, so why can't we?

  53. Rhonda(retiree wife) says:

    I was on tricare standard and it was costing alot more than enrolling in prime and paying copays. My son and husband are both disabled and have many doctors and appointments. Therefore I cannot afford to pay for standard costs. Been there and done that and it cost alot more to be on standard. That is our main reason for being on Prime. AND if we move , sell our house that we have been in for 12 years, whos to say that after we move they don't change it again and then it becomes a vicious cycle. Stop taking away all of the benefits that were promised when we were retiring after 22 years. I say the general public and military needs to march on washington and let them know that WE WILL
    NOT CONTINUE TO GET THE SHAFT FROM THEM.

  54. Tom Hoffman says:

    What else should be expected from the imperial presidency we have put up with for the last 4+ years. We need to remove all of the libs from office.

  55. Someone has to sacrifice. So we need to take healthcare away from Military Retirees in order to ensure that illegal alien drug smugglers have the best healthcare (Obama Care). In this way the flow of good cocaine will continue to get to Washington DC.

  56. Irate Veteran says:

    Why does our Government send millions of dollars in aid to the Middle East, to people who hate us and murder even those who are not involved in the military? Why do we pay for this by losing our promised benefits? Send Obama over there to fight. Let him experience the horror our men and women are going through. It's all about the POWER those people want. They are not wanting democracy … they want us to help them keep their power in controlling the wealth. Get out of there!!! Bring our armed forces home and stop giving those countries aid.

  57. There is an option in this story where you can put in your zip code to find out if you are going to lose Prime. We were surprised to see that we won't lose it. We wouldn't want to go on Standard but we would have the option to go on the Johns Hopkins plan…..check to see if you have a plan like Hopkins in your area.

  58. Frank Sanchez says:

    I signed up at a time when militarly were considered either too stupid to make it as a civiliian or too lazy. But I signed up. I served proudly and took orders. Comes desert storm and the Iraq-Kuwait war and all of a sudden we are important when the oil company's bottom line is in danger. Then we are the best of the best and everyones hero. Now that all the dust has settled and the memories of 911 and Iraq are fading we get the old "thanks a lot now quietly GO AWAY".

  59. Frank Sanchez says:

    That's always been the story for the military we are the junk yard dog no one wants to see but are so glad for when the S—–T hits the fan. It was the same for WW1 vets and the bonus army. The country forgot them and the promises that were made to them. In WW2 the returning vets were forgotten. And the same for Korea and Vietnam. Now it's my generations turn to be put in history's dust bin.

  60. Frank Sanchez says:

    When are we going to stop being sheep! When are we going to instill fear in the people who are supposed to look out for our interests, our elected officials. We have forgotten that governments should fear the people who elect them not the other way around. We the people need to rise up and show Washington that we will not be forgotten. We need to be a force to content with! I heard it said once that "water can support a ship, but it can also sink it". We need to let Washington know that we who supported them during conflict after conflict and war after war are still here to support them and to sink them. We who served under the worst conditions and sacrificed our lives and our families to serve this great country deserve better than to be thrown off the fiscal cliff to save the jobs of Washington fat cats and Wall Street millionaires. We need to let them hear our voice! We need to let them know that this is wrong and we won't stand for this sort of treatment any longer!

    • They ONLY speak one language…money. He who lacks money they don't hear.

    • Frank, that is the best response I have read to date! Thank you for your eloquently spoken words! Keep up the good work, as I was definitely not born with "the gift of gab." But you hit the nail on the head in your reply! I wonder how much monies were spent during the Academy Awards, that could have been spent in other ways. . .Our government is in a Coma, they have become professional politicians. I firmly believe there should be term limitations, similar to the Presidents, be placed on Senators and Congressman.
      Come along, there has to be a better way!

  61. Well, you all can thank the Honorable Senator from Arizona, Mr. McCain for this one!!

  62. Lindsey Davis says:

    I am the spouse of a Navy Vet, he now has medicare and Tricare for life. I was using Tricare Prime, but I couldnt go where I wanted or see my doctor. I work fulltime, so have opted to take out the insurance at my job, just to keep seeing my own doctor and get the other options if needed.
    I think it is unjust for the government to do this moreso to the Military Retirees, I feel that the Tricare Prime healthcare has gone down hill since we started using it. I feel for the young people who live locally and cannot get their care locally because we are 4 hrs from a military facility.

  63. harold bryant says:

    Team Army, we all have to realize that "we get what we vote for". I talk to a lot of young military guys and are amazed of how they feel it is so cool to support the current regime. Most don't think of their golden years until they are almost there and then it's too late. Not implying a mutiny, but all active duty, reserve, retired servicemen need to be getting in contact with their respective congressman on their concerns about the future of our future medical care.

    • Getting in touch with your congressman would be like talking to as hobe in the freight yard. They are the ones responsible for all this. They can vote to override the President but are afraid to. I retired from the nave in 1981.

    • harold bryant,

      Heck, only around 18% to 19% actually hang around and retire.

  64. Ed McMains MSG (RET) says:

    I retired in 1991 and signed up for Tricare Prime. My wife and I enrolled out at Madigan Army Medical Center and have had excellent care and our primary care physician is a fantastic PA by the name of Mr. Behner. When I 1st saw the articles about getting booted off of Prime because of the distance I live from Army Med Center I panicked because with the health issues I have (Hep C – most like contracted from the airguns they gave us shots with back in 1971) I don't want to have to change doctors. The good news here is that the new rules are for those that are seeing a contracted provider and do not affect those of us already getting our care at the MTF. I have seen some of the horror stories about military health care but I have to say that my wife and I have always felt like we were getting absolutely class a care. We intend to convert to Tricare for Life out at Madigan in a couple of years when we hit 65.

  65. For the first time in US history it seems that our government has become a major threat to the very institution it is supposed to honor and protect, the US Constitution. King Obama and his lackeys need to pack up and get out of the US before it is ruined by their lies, scheming and socialist chicanery.

  66. Elden Marcellino says:

    My name is Elden Marcellino SKC Navy {Ret] Both my self and my wife is over 65. on Medicare and Tricare for Life. Are we going to lose our Tricare for Life benifits after 30Sept?

    • Elden Marcellino,

      No.

      • My name is Jim Jones. My wife and I are over 65 and presently have Tricare for Life and Medicare. If we don't lose TFL after Sep 30, do we have to worry about losing Medicare?

        • No, you will never lose medicare. You paid into it. Well, sadly you paid into free healthcare from serving, but you see how the government has screwed you there…

  67. Bet you didn't thought your sex life would be increased in retirement.
    Consistently screwed by Wahshington… and not even a kiss!!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. The Vets in the US are like ole Joseph in the Bible, the President and Congress just threw us into the well, and getting ready to sell us to Egypt

    • What is frustrating to me is that the response that I received from the white house is all about ObamaCare. If I weren't getting paid or refused to work, my healthcare would be taken care of without question. In order to pay for the sick, lame and lazy we are expected to take another one for the "team".

  69. The Pentagon’s newest numbers say that the new F35 Fighter jets will cost $112.5 million, plus $22 million for the engine, apiece to buy in 2012 dollars (that figure includes the cost of R&D work), according to Reuters. That’s $135 million per plane, plus an additional $26 million for the engines when adjusted for inflation.
    And WASHINGTON IS LOOKING TO CUT OUR BENIFITS

  70. designed to save the taxpayer monies, what an insult you rotten fools, we were told that we had FREE medical and dental for us and our dependents when we retired, nothing about co-pays, premiums or paying rising perscription co-pays.
    all the senate,house and the exec need to be fired and we need real citizens to start over and do things that this great country was founded on the constitution and bill fo rights, not the bill of the leadership gets rich and we get screwed, broken promises daily and getting worse how dare they.

    • I complete across the board, except for being fired. what they are doing to us is criminal, and they need to be sent to jail for it.

        • Rob B,

          That was $330 million not 1 billion! Do you know how they came up with more monies than they needed??????

          • Lmao, AND did they put that back into Tricare? Next CON-gressional debate should be that any excess funds are to STAY as excess funds for MEDICAL purposes only. Use it for those INCREDIBLY high costs of Veterans and their families. Tricare funds should not be fodder for other programs.

          • idmedic,

            Well, run for Congress and make that change. LOL

          • Is that your response to everything? Why not send a letter? Become active in veterans affairs. Everything CON-gress does is ok with you? Amazing to think democracy for you is "run for CON-gress"…….lmao. I would love to hear your campaign speech. Let me guess, it would begin with this. I am in charge and IF you want to change things then run for my position. If not then don't write me or call me. I make 170 thousand dollars and don't have the time or inclination to discuss your concerns. I am too busy spending YOUR money while also collecting it for my salary. …lmao

          • Idmedic,

            "Is that your response to everything?"

            No.

            "Why not send a letter? Become active in veterans affairs."

            As I have told you 100 times before, I have everything I expected when I retired. If you have a complaint, then you write you own letters

            "Everything CON-gress does is ok with you?"

            No.

  71. I used their site to compare best I could… They are "automatically" enrolling us in standard, when in fact Extra saves us 5% on cost-share (another slam in the dace term when we were told "free" and lived up to our side of the contract). Network provider? As in takes Tricare? Confusing.

  72. Petethepilot says:

    Beyond the fact that standard is far more expensive than prime. Beyond the fact that we will get very little support in finding doctors as we get stuck with billing from non certified participating standard doctors. Beyond the fact that going into a hospital will be a nightmare. Folks look at the dates the original DOD press release occurred, a Friday afternoon in January. Sound familiar! They all were quiet on this prior to the election. Sound familiar! Now for the rear irony, 40 miles doesn't mean 40 miles from MTF. It means as I played with zip code finder, in a zip code 40 miles from the MTF. So you could be 45 miles away and continue on prime and a near by neighbor in a different zip code over 40 mile away is forced into standard. What a deal, thank you Mr. President for looking out for the retire military.

  73. Holy Crap… Vets better get busy and VOTE out the fools voting FOR this !! AZ needs to recall McCain.. that sellout is DONE! McCain I hope you Practice what you Preach as well as all the other slimy congressmen on the Take!!

  74. with my wifes health we will have to buy a supplement to help, without that there is no way to handle the cost

  75. May as well get used to cuts. This is obamas dem. agenda

  76. This is the first response I got from writing my Senator. Not exactly an answer, don't see how 171,000 retirees can save the gov't billions of dollars. We stayed in 29 years knowing the gov't promised us (family) free health care. Now they are changing their minds, but our american soldiers were good enough to put their lives on the line without questioning what we were doing it for. We can send billions of money overseas and save everyone else but not our retirees. Sad day for our american retirees that this is what it has come to.

    Dear Monica,

    Thank you for getting in touch with me and letting me know what’s on your mind regarding military health benefits under the TRICARE program.

    In recent years, TRICARE benefits have been improved in a number of ways, such as eliminating co-payments for active duty family members and reducing the catastrophic cap for retirees from $7,500 to $3,000. Over this same period, out-of-pocket costs for TRICARE participants remained stable, even as such costs were increasing for those enrolled in civilian health care plans.

    TRICARE is experiencing rapidly escalating costs, which have more than doubled since 2001. In Fiscal Year 2009, TRICARE spending exceeded $44.8 billion. Without reforms to the program, the Department of Defense (DOD) projects that TRICARE spending will increase to $64 billion by Fiscal Year 2015. DOD has warned that such increases are unsustainable and that benefit adjustments are needed to ensure future U.S. military capability.

    Although Congress needs to needs to find ways to control costs while maintaining quality in TRICARE and other health spending programs, I have concerns about the President’s proposal and will study it carefully.

    I am committed to doing my part to ensure that our government keeps its promise to our nation’s service members, our veterans, and their dependents. I’ll be sure to keep your views and comments in mind as modifications to TRICARE are discussed here in Washington and in Tennessee.

    Sincerely,
    Lamar

  77. Frustrated Spouse says:

    I am a 52 year old spouse of a career retiree. Unfortunately, I have severe health issues and am medically retired from my job. I was forced onto Social Security Disability by my own private disability carrier. Then TRICARE forced me at age 52 into paying for Medicare at $115.40 despite having cadillac primary health coverage through the Post Office group health coverage. TRICARE rules state they will deny coverage even at a MTF if I was Medicare eligible but refused coverage. So now, we pay over $5,000 a year in health care premiums for our family. I have three policies on myself, two of which wont pay and now I end up paying most of my copays and co insurances to my doctors as they are not participating providers and will not bill for secondary and third coverages. I paid $256.00 for my latest treatment and got back $5.29 from Medicare. Anyone that thinks nationalized government run healthcare is a good thing needs their head examined. I tried to refuse the Medicare coverage. My Congressman attempted to mediate for me but was told that if I refused coverage, TRICARE would refuse 100% of all coverage, including my drug coverage and I would be turned away even at a MTF if I showed up in an ambulance. Medicare also stated that I would be penalized and charged an additional percentage for every year that I refused coverage. First, this is a violation of the promises made to my husband, the service member to care for him and his family for life. Secondly, it is a violation of my rights as well. I should be able to decide what health coverage I want to carry. Now I pay much more premium for much less coverage. This is a travesty. The government dishonors our veterans and service members. My husband is proud of his service but would never recommend our children consider entering the military. Its a sad commentary on the state of our government and our society.

  78. All,

    UPDATED: TRICARE Prime Service Area ZIP Code Look-Up Tool
    February 27, 2013

    The tool allowing TRICARE beneficiaries to check if they live in a ZIP code affected by Prime Service Area (PSA) reduction has been updated with the latest information on affected ZIP codes. ZIP code listings are regularly updated, so check back frequently. For all the most up-to-date information on PSA changes, visit http://www.tricare.mil/psa.

    Use the ZIP code look-up tool at: http://www.tricare.mil/psazip.

    Sign up for TRICARE e-mail updates at

    http://www.tricare.mil/subscriptions.

    • Reduction? Thought our benefits were getting larger Charles? Is reduction akin to cuts or is that a way to say you GAIN a new civilian provider? Strange you seem to provide info on CUTS but nothing else for promoting VETERANS causes or support.

  79. Frank Pernau says:

    I think Obama with the Medica care program (Med Care for all the Americans)
    will work for our citizens. I do not like to copy programs from another counties, but I was stationed in Germany for many years and I can proof they have a good Med Care program.. yes, it is social…..,, but the American Social Security is also Social.

    Of course the big privat health insurance the want to keep the Chocola cake.

    Don't blame the Democrats, see who is against all the social programs, including for the US military and retirees.

    • Frank, military medical is breaking the bank. Why do you feel that doing the the same for the country will be any better?

    • Because Obutthead is ALL about supporting the military. <eyeroll>

  80. I bet you didn't put your life on th line, splend long periods of time away from your family serving your country, or suffer perm. disabling injuries in combat. If you want to complain about something to save tax payers dollars, complain about the federal ins.that your congressman gets for life after only serving one term or the millions of dollars they walk away with while in ofice. Also, another way would be to limit them to terms like the president, eliminate their retirement and medical benefits. We in the military earned every thing we get.

    • BDC,

      "If you want to complain about something to save tax payers dollars, complain about the federal ins.that your congressman gets for life after only serving one term or the millions of dollars they walk away with while in ofice."

      This isn't true about one term in office, and this was busted years ago.

      Source:

      Retirement Benefits for Members of Congress
      Katelin P. Isaacs
      Analyst in Income Security
      November 30, 2012

      http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?…

  81. Well, I certainly hope you eventually face an exponential cost to using your Medicare. That's fair.

  82. OK everybody, lets all say it at once. 1..2..3.. RENEGE! Now, let it all out right here, then go to http://www.google.com and type "CONGRESS and XXX" (XXX meaning YOUR State). Then start writing letters to Congressmen, where your words MIGHT actually be heard.

    Our dopey Congress is choc full of people who don't give a diddly about Vets or the Military. Some of them would happily do FAR more damage than an out of control DoD would, given the opportunity. The more emails/letters etc, the better the chances we MIGHT be able to stop the great American Screwing-of-the-Vets that's sure to be coming down the pike.

    • m retired Navy after many years and hate to see the Repubs doing things as they are. Vote them out.

  83. Maurice Laubach says:

    I am 82 and it appears like I should just croke and get it over with,

  84. Al Gomes says:

    You know there was a time when America's word was her bond. If we said something we ment it, and if we committed to something or someone we were good for it. We respected our elders and appreciated all they did to geg us where we are today, we were a country of great honor and earned the respect of both friend and foe.
    We were told that social security would be there in. Our older years and we needed to invest in savings bonds for our country's future, that we needed to sacrifice for our future generations, we needed to serve our country for our future generations to live a better life tomorrow. We did it all because America was good for her promiceses. I guess that you will now tell the present generation the same thing to sacrifice for our future, HOW GOOD IS YOUR WORD NOW.???

    Are we sacrificing for the Ritchie to get richer like they did off my forefathers backs sweat and blood on a promise of better things to come only to be told 30 years from now that America was no longer faithful to her word and could not be held liable for promises made today? When will the people who make the sacrifices for our future ever get the benefits of our labor and be allowed to reap the benefits of the sacrifices of our forefathers? IT SEEMS THAT FOR THE MEEK AND ELDERLY THAT INDEED TOMORROW NEVER COMES IN THE GOOD OLD USA!!

    We are the toilet paper for the Ritchie to get richer and were never ment to live as we were promised.

    I say this have your day Ritch man because tomorrow does come in the afterlife, and GOD never sleeps.

    IT IS TIME FOR US TO RECEIVE OUR JUST DUE THAT WE WERE PROMISED BY AMERICA! America KEEP YOUR PROMISE YOU MADE TO MY FOREFATHERS RESPECT OUR ELDERLY AND THE BLOOD SHED FOR YOUR PROMISES

  85. Then you should have stayed the 20 plus years and thought ahead. You should have thought ahead.

  86. No, cuts like these do not need to be made. Our debt national debt is about to hit 3T but is it not from programs like this, it is because our politicians, who are suposed to be serving us, serve themselves. They waste Millions, and Billions of dollars on ridicules stuff, the stimules packages that did nothing other than run up our debt, etc, etc and now, they have to cut our benefits. What about theirs, they are all millionaires, Obama just spent $20 million of tax payers money on his vacation, look it up, it is true, so don't tell me we have to cut TRICARE, we need to vote these scumbags out of office. That is what they do, when Obama was doing the stimulus, etc, I knew this was coming; it is about redistribution of wealth; they spend like crazy, then cut our benefits but not theirs. They live the high life.. CSM H.

    • Chuck,

      "Obama just spent $20 million of tax payers money on his vacation, look it up, it is true,"

      I tried looking it up, and found nothing about it. Help me out here.

      • Idmtmedic says:

        Try typing Obama vacation costs? The cost is relative…….as in to any other president. Google only works for PRO-government stats? Funny you can't find what you claim is your FACTS when it doesn't support your conclusions. You have All the government info available but cannot find a site on a presidential vacation? Lol.

        • idmedic,

          No link, means it not true. Of course, I knew there wasn't anything to it in the beginning. I also find it cute how you follow me around these blogs and and only post to me 98% of the time.

          Please idmedic, take your love for me over to my site and post your crap over there.

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MyMilitaryHistory/?…

          • Idmtmedic says:

            What you have a site? How many responses you have on your site? Maybe you could start a blog? Lmao

          • idmedic,

            I made that site specifically for you so I could answer all or most of you crap having to do with these blogs.

            You promised to post your DD Form 214/215 over there, and have yet to do it. Seems you've gone back on said promise.

          • Idmtmedic says:

            Where is "Retirees" I also said if he posts his then mine would follow. What happened? Your military record only confirms your opinions on sacrifice in the military. "cough cough".

    • Al Harig says:

      CSM, not to correct you, but to clarify. Our national debt is about to hit 17 Trillion. Obama has added 6 Trillion thru his stimulas, social justice programs, free cell phones and Golf trips.

  87. FREE? Who said Tricare Prime was Free? we pay for it to

  88. Al Harig says:

    First of all, we dont get free anything. We pay premiums and co-pays. The fact is that when you serve for 20 yrs, at a pay rate that is 40% less than the civilian sector then retire at 50% of that pay grade, your benefits are important. Our worthless politicians feel that they can cut budget to allow for social programs and welfare rats to succeed. Not to mention that fact that there is a sacrifice to military service that NOONE can appreciate unless you serve the full 20 yrs. That service should not be marginalized by the political hacks that have never served.

  89. Al Harig says:

    It is called a career choice, you chose to quit the service. Retirees chose to serve their country for 20yrs and should receive what they got when they retired.

  90. Screwed again says:

    I got the news today that MY Government, is cutting my Tricare bennies again. No surprise as the vast majority of the pukes in office, never served their country. (Public office is not service to country BTW, it is self serving) Obama will walk away a millionaire, as do most of that Axxholes. Never the less, I am kicked off Tricare Prime only to pay 25% out of pocket for something that I literally gave my left leg and right foot for. Fuck you Obama!!!!

  91. All of us retired VETS can thank Senator John McCain who was a major proponent of cutting out Tri-Care Prime for the majority of retirees. Yes our so called POW hero who has put the screws to miltary retirees. McCain has clearly lost it. He should be what he acts like —- a Democrat…..or maybe a traitor of military retirees. The Senator has clearly lost it. He really needs to retire. And one more thing…..Why do military retirees close to military installations get a better deal—preference than those not close to military installations? Sounds like this could be a good class action law suit.

    • M. DuVon says:

      I agree! Senator McCain needs to move on. He's not thinking straight anymore. I cringe just about every time he opens his mouth. He's a hothead these days and hurts more than he helps.

    • IRON2OSCAR@ATT.NET says:

      MCCAIN DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MEDICAL CARE FOR VETERANS, HE MARRIED MONEY AND SHE CAN AFFORD HIS MEDICAL BILLS. HE HAS LOST TOUCH WITH US.

  92. I did my Freakin time. I signed on for free medical for the rest of my life. I paid my freakin premiums. Now my wife is thrown under the bus, I am thrown in front of the train (VA Medical CARE(LESS)) and now have to pull more out of my pension and disability to pay for medical care I GOT WHILE SERVING!!!!

    This sucks so much. Washington et. all. You suck. You screw us, make unilateral changes to a CONTRACT, see business law 101. Now I have to make more changes, cut more money from my budget to pay for overpriced doctors and undervalued service.

    So for me it's back to the VA. Where we are just cattle, being lined up, sent through the chute till we get sick and die from illness or injury, infections caught in a VA facility or just die because we can't get a necessary disgnostic procedure and can't get it fixed till it's too late.

    Hell, at least cattle in a slaughter house get it over quickly, a hammer gun through the brain and off they go. This pisses me off so much.

    I CAN'T AFFORD more out of pocket expenses for my "FREE MEDICAL FOR LIFE"!!!

  93. Complain all you want!!! Nobody is Listening!!!!!!! Old Soldiers never Die Our Gov just ignores them.

  94. I've heard that the VA excepts tricare. How do you go about changing your care to the VA?

  95. Ha, tha's Lamar Alexander, he will say anything that will get him votes. Not a fan. But in today's world, everyone is going to have to give a little. If that means having to pay some copays for care, that is still WAY better than for civilians. As a retired military, you can make sooooo much money, all those I know are pretty well off. Retired pretty young and now have retirement income coming in from the second career after they retired from the military. Sorry, can't feel sorry for career military retirees, you had the opportunity to do very well, if you blew it, that's your fault. UNLESS, you are disabled, that is a different story. I am a nam-vet widow and I get nothing, he got nothing, died before things started happening for nam vets, so stop whining.

  96. woebegong says:

    I think folks are rather misinformed and feel everything is the former administrations fault. In the last 73 years, our politicians have had one, (1) balanced federal budget. This has been both democrat and republican administrations. Open your eyes and realize that members of both parties have skirted the law, requiring a balanced budget be presented each year by congress and put into action.
    As a retired military member, I can promise you, that we sure do not get rich on the retirement we are given, but we seem to be an easy target to break promises made to us. For those that think the military gets too many perks, especially once you retire, think for a moment. how long this country would survive without a strong military. There would be a lot more 9/11's to deal with. Before condemning this great health care system we also have, keep in mind that a lot of the illnesses and disabilities we have, were caused by our chosen profession. Yes, we chose to serve our country in the military but we made a lot of sacrifices to get what we have today as far as retirement and healthcare.

    • woebegong,

      The only thing promised me, was 50% of my Base Pay, and I don't see anyone wanting to take that from me.

      As for Health Care that was never promised to me by Congress, or a Law, signed by the President or anyone that counts anyway.

      PS: Some recruiter can't make a promise of Health Care as per what the US Supreme Court stated in 2003.

  97. woebegong says:

    The supreme court might have ruled in 2003 that recruiters could not make a promise of life time healthcare for retirees, but I came in , in 1968 and retired in 1990. I know what they promised when I came in, so they changed the rules after I was retired.

    • woebegong,

      I know I can't change you mind about this, but do you know of anyone in the United States Military that ever got free Health Care for Life????? Just name one guy, anywhere. How about the year this started, and the year the rules changed.

      I know my father reitred in 1972 with 30 some years in and he never had this free health care.
      You would think, that if this were ever really true, there would be some former Service Members that fell under those Free Health Care Rules that you believe in.

      You would think, that there would have been a bill that authorized this Free Health Care for Life and you would think it was also funded by Congress. I think once you check, you will find out tha no one was ever getting free health care unless the Military Facility had (space availability). You will also find out that Congress never passed any bill, nor has any President sign a law giving anyone Free Health Care for Life, nor has anything like this ever funded.

      Later

  98. It's a disgrace. I was put back on Tricare Standard and was told if "I lived in a certain area, next to a base medical center" then I could stay on the plan I was accustomed to. Well guess what Uncle Sam, I thought this was free country. If I choose to move back to my hometown after I have sacrificed my entire youth for this country, I should be able to do so without penalty. Not the case. Can't sue Uncle Sam, but I can sure as hell can pull his beard. I'm not done with this yet.