Bill Would Restore GI Bill for Older Vets

According to an AP report, the Senate may soon have the chance to vote on whether or not to remove the time limit for GI Bill benefits. Currently veterans have 10 years to use their Montgomery GI Bill (or 15 years to use their Post-9/11 GI Bill). The so-called delimiting date is determined by the veterans last discharge date.

Senator Richard Blumenthal announced his new bill on Tuesday May 28, saying the new bill that would repeal the “unfair and arbitrary time  limits.”

Blumenthal  said more than 2 million veterans who missed the 10-year expiration date have been denied the benefits despite paying  the required Montgomery GI Bill  enrollment fee of  $1,200.

While the bill would not have an immediate effect on Post-9/11 vets, it would restore the GI Bill for many Vietnam, Cold-War, and Gulf-War era veterans who were unable to take advantage of their benefits within the 10 years after discharge.

About the Author

Terry Howell
Before becoming the Managing Editor for, Terry served 20 years in the U.S. Coast Guard as an Aviation Electrician’s Mate and aircrewman. In his final role in the Coast Guard, Terry served as a Career Development Advisor, where he provided career, finance, education, and benefits counseling to servicemembers and their families. Since retiring from the Coast Guard, Terry has authored the book, The Military Advantage, managed the content for TurboTap, the DoD's online transition program and VAforVets, the VA's transition assistance website. Terry earned both his Bachelor's and MBA at Corban University using Military Tuition Assistance and his GI Bill benefits to help cover the cost.
  • L Daniels

    The Post-9/11 bill should be transferable to all veterans that served during that time.

    • L Daniels,

      Why just “Post-9/11”????? What makes them better?????

      • Idmtmedic

        What makes Veterans better if they live within a certain distance to a military base? Why different carrots for different years? Explain why it isn’t a standard BASE for military service or benefits across the board? Not recruit with faux benefits which do not disclose them ending. The Army is still recruiting with TA benefits? They change it based on the whims of the party in charge NOT it being affordable. You asked where the money is coming from? The same place that all the money comes from. Thin air and who happens to decide who can breathe it. First cuts? Not welfare or illegals but the military benefits, carrots, and soon enough entitelments, which I still have not had an answer too. What are the entitelments? Explain it by year………ANYBODY????

        • idmedic,

          This blog is about the GI Bill, please take your other than this subject here:


          • Idmtmedic

            Alright Charles, why change the GI bill? Now what on earth would compell someone to do that? Special interest? Part affiliation? Money? Sacrifice? Why would unfair and arbitrary time limits be limited to the GI bill? It’s the same regardless of the proposed benefits in regards to military members. It changes ALL the time. No set standard, no security. Costs more right? Your argument is where is the money coming from? It comes from letters to CON-gressmen military family members of CON-gressmen, and a sense of right and wrong. Moral vs legal.

          • idmedic,

            Not sure where you’re getting all this anger. This is the questions I asked:

            “Why just “Post-9/11″????? What makes them better?????”

            I’m not exactly sure how you come up with everything you posted based on what I posted, and still you didn’t even touch upon my 2 questions.

    • Mike
    • Mike
  • J.MO.

    If this happens, it would help many of us to take advantage of it after loosing the benefits…

    • L Richardson
      • Phiggs
  • mocvdengineer

    My era is no GI Bill. I think they called it veap or some such crap.

    • Idmtmedic

      Same here!

    • Scully
    • csailor
    • terry

      Yes, I was in that era and it was crap, u put in and the govt was to match what a bunch of garbage it wasn’t enough to pay for school so I took out student loans thatI am still paying back.

  • Chris

    OK, I was Vietnam era GI Bill. I was able to use some of my benefits for education but not all. Does this mean I will be able to use those months that I did not?

    • Walt
    • MCNCO

      Absolutely! Go to your local STATE VA office or see the on-campus VA officer @ the learning institution you plan to attend & he/they can apprise you of your rights under the Post-9/11 GI Bill.

    • Mary
  • conradswims

    cool! I can go to college now. Oh! that’s right I don’t need to. I got a trade. Maybe I can sell my G. I. Benefits.

  • Jorge L Rivera

    I had the crapy VEAP also, but did not take advantage of it….I hope this bill passes…I could use the help…

  • Kent Taylor
  • Dan Roganti

    I think it would be great to see our GI Bill restored. I was trying to get my bachelors back then, still had about 3 more semesters to go. But I really wonder who will even hire a 50yr old with a degree these days.

    • Mark Call
      • Lee

        That may be okay for you guys, but for us Nam vets who would be approaching 70 by the time that we got our degrees, I don’t think so. For us, they are just showboating for the press, or they are total idiots at being a day late and a dollar short. With this, it is only toilet paper to us

  • ajkiek

    No veteran should be denied his or her rights, however conditions exist for a reason. Politicians would quickly “determine” that extension of long-expired benefits will cost the government additional hundreds of millions of dollars and use that as an excuse to limit the wages and benefits, including future retirement, of those serving today.

    • ajkiek,

      I look at the GI Bill and other things like this, like a Warranty or Guaranty. Nothing is warrantied or guarantied for live unless you pay upfront for it, and items like that are far and few between. The GI Bill was never meant to be available for the life of us. Those looking to change this and make it a lifetime guaranty, know little to nothing about what this will cost, then there will be those that want to change the rules again, and be able to give this away to their wifes or children, all on the backs of the VA Budget.

      I think it is all about getting more veterans to vote for him.

      • Idmtmedic

        So that includes retirement? According to you we didn’t pay up front for that? What’s your point? How about YOU walk into DoD and tell them your retirement wasn’t paid for either. Country can’t afford it and your VOLUNTARILY going to give up yours to the NATION because your so damned concerned about the budget! Lead by example, let’s see all your followers. Now who brought this idea up to bring back this benefit? The VETERANS? No….yet your jumping their comments? How about YOU write a letter Charles to the person responsible for proposing it.

    • hedgehog

      Politicians waste millions of dollars on crap everyday. Just listen to them on C-Span. I would be ashamed to be a politician. They should put some effort into programs that would benefit those who served this beautiful nation. They think it is OK to receive 100 percent pension for themselves after serving a few years.

      • hedgehog,

        I thought I’d seen the last of “100% pension for themselves after serving a few years” bullchit. I can tell you this, it was NOT true when it was first posted, and it is NOT true this time around either. I must say this though, anyone one that still believes this, deserves a full free education from the nation.

        Retirement Benefits for Members of Congress

        Katelin P. Isaacs
        Analyst in Income Security
        January 3, 2011

    • roycar

      I see en extension of politician’s salaries, long and short term and determine a wast of hundreds of millions of dollars. Why don’t we ask our politicians to survey their salaries and then makes the appropriate adjustments to their salaries (Can just imagine what their reply would be).

      • roycar,

        The would be happy, because they have already done that, that Congressmen make less.

      • TDavis
    • Donna

      We all served dimwit

    • old man

      This is funny! I had to work two jobs to feed my family. Now that I’m 65 I don’t get any medical. I make to much money that the real joke, all vet’s should the right to this benefit. I was told I could go to any Vet center and have some type medical service. That would be fine even had to pay a co-payment.
      I vote for all the vets.. I to old to go to schools.

  • Ted Iam

    For those vet who used the bill as it was supposed to be used is when it was supposed to be used don’t have a problem with the benefit elapsing after 10 years. Are you going to use the bathroom or not? If you giggle it more than two times, then your playing with it. Stop playing and wasting tax payers time and money with these friveous actions which only let the lazy continue to be lazy. 10 years and you can’t decide what you want to be when you grow up – REALLY!!!

    • Jason
    • BigDaddy

      I missed out on mine not because I couldn’t decide, but after 15 years in one trade, I decided for a change but the money was gone.

    • James

      He put it right, so i am going to use it agen. Sounds like you are commenting out of your ass there. Every case is different but take in consideration that alot of veterans who were disabled couldnt jump on college right after they got out.

    • STEVE


    • Jen

      What an asinine comment! Many of us had way too many things happen in our lives that did not allow us to go back to school immediately after we got out of the military. We had kids that we dedicated our lives to for example. I did get my degree eventually, but missed out using most of my GI Bill and used grants and student loans. If this bill passes, I will take advantage of it and get my Masters Degree.

      • Frank

        I agree with the supporting the family came first. I started with the GI Bill but it was near the end of the time limit.

        • Ed P

          Very true. Like misson first-completed-Family-done- Self-now… Ran out off time when I was attending colege and had to stop because of the expiration time. Thank you for writing your comment of encouragement…

    • Jason

      Why does this bother you so much? Can’t you find a real cause to invest yourself in?
      Did you use yours? Tell us more about your position

    • boozie time

      Sounds like you carry some kind of resentment.
      Bitterness shows with your comment.
      What makes you this way?
      Were you beaten up by bigger boys when you were little?

    • Pete cele

      Dude,realize that some of us knew what we wanted to do back in the early 70’s. unfortunately,being married & working 2 jobs prevented many of us to use the GI bill.

      • Sailorman65

        @Pete cele, don’t pay any attention to that blow hard, he strikes me of one that has lived his entire life on welfare and food stamps and feels that its his “God given right”to call all vets beggars. I’m willing to bet that he was turned down for service because of something that he had no control over or just enjoys putting down those that did serve. Truly pathetic if you ask me.

    • Viet Vet

      What a dumbass. Fit material for Goon Platoon.

  • Terrier

    The purpose was to prevent retirees from “going back to school” to collect a monthly check and get an education they never plan to use. Are we going bankrupt or not?

    • Hedgehog

      Apparently you are a retiree and don’t need this benefit. I suggest you don’t use it.

      • Hedgehog,

        This is a mere thought, not a benefit. We had 10 years to decide and with the new GI Bill, they have 15 years to decide. Dang, someone thinks about a new bill, people are already calling it a benefit before it is even voted on if it gets voted on at all. My kid can’t afford to for your education guaranteed for life.

        • Rickb

          Charles I have to say it.. I have never seen you agree on anything that would benefit another veteran, not in all the time you spew your hate on here have you once said anything nice and you have been spewing for a longggggggggggggggg time

          • Idmtmedic

            Ya got that right!!!!!!

        • J.Ortiz

          So I can put my life on the line for your kid, but I don’t deserve an education? Wow … We served under the same flag did we Charles?

    • Troy

      In many states including Virginia, retirees over 65 Veteran or not can attend any State University now for free anyway so that would be a rather mute point now :)

      • J.Ortiz

        Not all states are as gracious as Virginia …

    • MCNCO

      What monthly check? With the Post-9/11 Bill you don’t any monthly check(s). You get partial reimbursement for tuition, you buy your own course text books & that’s it.

    • J.Ortiz

      We are not going bankrupt … That is an excuse to cut budgets and increase political salaries.

  • dwlmaui

    I think it would be a great opportunity for those like myself who needed alittle more time to get it together.VEV-17yrs.old off the coast of SVN / Fall of Saigon DE1071.
    sorry Ted Iam / terrier . Closing in on the same shop WORKING and paying taxes-should be able to use it when I use it !! and thats that .Its already on the books,sorry cant be an ALLSTAR such as yourselves in this dog eat dog world. Its on the Books!! Like your 30 days leave =now or take off time at your early retirement ??Gotta admit though, some scabbers ruin it for the rest .

  • William Lilly

    Thank You for trying this I paid my full due within the first 12 months in the AF and because of disabilities and VA meds I cannot even get VOC REHAB anymore but I have been wanting to go to Bible College for more than a decade and cannot get what I PAID for. I am a Desert Storm Vet and also considered a Panama Vet and keep me informed. I am also at 100% so that supposedly makes me ineligible for further education ?

  • Joe

    For those against this, a couple points. There is alot of Vets that when they leave the military, first priorty is to take care of there family. Pre 21st century GI Bill did not pay much for school. (For me it was $400 a month with full credits)
    So alot of Vets started a career and providing for there families. With companies always looking to make cuts, expecially during the resession. Here is a Vet that had 15-20 years on the job, in his/her 40’s and 50’s, looking for a new job. It sure would be nice to have that education opportunity still there!
    I busted my butt in DC with the VFW and Legion to get the new generation a better GI Bill. Lets not forget the ones that came before that and fought for what we have now! All Veteran Benefits should be for life.

  • not1ofyoupeople

    We need to find a way to limit Congress’s gravy train. Until we, the people, grow some balls and demand they stop cutting VA and Military entitlements and demand congress put their benefit level more in line with the public, we will continue on this same path of the rich (Congress) get richer and the poor get poorer.

    • not1ofyoupeople,

      What VA and Military entitlements have been cut????? Hell, no one has cut any of mine.

    • Donna

      So true

  • purpleheartpark

    Thank you very much from all us Korea and Vietnam Veterans. It would probably be better to add a little money to our Funeral Arraignments rather than offering us an Associate Degree. Tad late Boys but thanks for the offer.

  • fran chapman

    my husband is a nam vet served 72-93 , when he got out didnt want to use his benefits , his older children didnt do any continued education , we had our 1st child in 91 so when he got old enough to continue we thought he may be able too use his fathers benefits , because we knew the kids could if the service member didnt , well of course the time limit passed and our son couldnt use it , if this bill passes i hope they still add that rider too it again , cuz we have 3 kids that could use some of it

  • jimmymishoe92

    i would like for my daughter to use the benefits i did not use some of my benefits to purchse house or continue edgucation instead of raise in my va check iwas in veitnam in 70-71 i went to germany after i was put out because of medical situation in 72 i started losing grip on life i do not want the same thing happen to my daughter which is 17 now after vietnam my life was getting misarible i could not sleep cry all the time no one would hire me i was in as”””ty frame of mind drinking badly but to day i want my life to be better thanks for listing

    • Lee

      You can still use you house purchase at any time, but it will NEVER transfer to your daughter. It sounds as if you are talking about PTSD, and if so, if your rating for disability is 100%, then your daughter IS COVERED FULLY FOR college. Check with a service rep.

  • Lewis Winston

    ridiculous! if you didnt use it too bad for you. i used both VEAP and now the post 9/11. i put in and used them within the time limits. i know post korea and Vietnam vets who usef theirs. it sucked because we didnt get much on the old plans but we made it happen. hell i worked two jobs and went to college on VEAP because i knew it would pay off. As enlisted i knew the only difference between me and an officer was education. tell you what you want it reinstated then you get what the plan paid back then. see how that works for you. one last note, passing to kids is completely ridiculous. they didnt earn it at all. toughen up!

    • Lewis Winston,

      I just love it when someone says it like it should be said. I’m not sure about those that think because of a few years in the service, the Government owes them the rest of their lives. Now it’s gone from that, to the Government owes the kids and wifes also. Chit, when does it ever stop. I guess in a few years, there will be those saying the Government owes the Grandkids also.

    • TigreNoir

      Mr Winston, many of us Viet Nam vets still have the stamina, brains and will to contribute to our ailing country. Getting additional education is a benefit to us all and has nothing to do with competing with our kids. It’s OK if you just want to sit in your rocking chair and watch the grass grow.

    • J.Ortiz


      I understand your point on passing it to children – with the exception of an active duty parent who died on the battlefield; they earned it for their child. As for the rest of your comment, Sir – Why are you so bitter? This bill would HELP your family in arms … Have you forgotten our sacrifices? My hat is off to you for your accomplishments, but not every soldiers plight in life is the same. This bill H E L P S …

  • Ken

    I think its a wonderful idea. I spent all of the ten years, plus some, as a non-service connected disabled Veteran. I had no possibility of using my GI Bill during that time. I finally became well. I needed an education to become a productive member of society. My benefits were gone. I got a grant and a loan to get my education. I sure could use my lost GI Bill for my education.

  • Ryan

    The value of an education has changed alot since my dad left service. Back in the his day, having a HS diploma and some military experience was worth something. Plus, putting bacon on the table was more important than going off to school for four years. Not to mention the GI Bill didn’t pay much back then. I think giving these old timers a second chance to go to school seems like a fair and reasonable thing to do.

    • oldbrokendownretiree

      Ryan, I understand your post but at what benefit is it to people who have either retired or are nearing retirement fom the workforce? I used my GI Bill and worked and raised a family, seems to me that my predessors could have done the same. I’m not trying to be disrespectful as I am greatly appreciative of their service, but, I do think that 10 an 15 years is plenty of time to use the GI bills

    • Rob

      Agreed – a time limit is not fair.

  • norm

    Sounds like a great idea. However it is only in the talking stages and most likely will never happen. at least not in our life times.

  • Willbene

    What is real unfortunate is that since WWII there has been ONLY one group of veterans that NEVER got the GI BILL, and that is when the military had their worthless VEEP program, and veterans who never contributed to the program….NO OTHER MILITARY member that received the GIBILL was required to pay for this benefits!

    • oldbrokendownretiree

      Actually, in order for you to qualify for the montgomery GI BILL you had to contribute at least $1200 up front and a small amount there after, and I paid for my Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits with blood sweat and tears in haellholes that would have made a billy goat puke, I had VEEP and tranferred it to the Montgomery GI Bill and my $2700 cntribution was used to suffice for the money that I would have had to put into the Montgomery GI Bill and I actually used some of my VEEP benefits before conversion. so please get your facts straight before you say that no one had to pay for their benefits outside of the VEEP program.

      • lola

        I paid $100 a month for a year and never had to pay anything more. That was in 1993.

  • oldbrokendownretiree

    Senator Richard Blumenthal announced his new bill on Tuesday May 28, saying the new bill that would repeal the “unfair and arbitrary time limits.”

    How is a 10 and 15 year time limit unfair an arbitrary? If you can’t figure out a way to use those benfits in that time frame, you lose them, just like the paper you signed says you do; God what a bunch whiners.

    • Tom Batsios

      If you have a lot of citizens receiving wellfare benefits to help them through some dificult times, then what is wrong with veterans who served and received an honorable discharge get some school bens. I got mine, my wife got hers and my son is now going to school and serving. There is nothing wrong with the country supporting its vets for a change. For some reason you don’t sound like you have served… I could be wrong and will stand corrected if I am wrong…

    • Still Waiting

      When I signed my papers to enlisted there was no time limit on the GI Bill.
      In fact it was of the selling point that the recruiters used to encourage enlisting in the army.

      • Elwood Blues


    • Wes

      You’re right.

    • Detailvet007

      I have refused/resisted relying on VA sc disability compensation throughout most of my life, until now when I am having to fight arbitrary time limits & technicalities that deny the reality. I for see years of debate/appeal to finally win with the VA, despite obvious cumulative effects of sc disabilities. If the Vietnam Era GI Bill was freed of these “arbitrary” time limits then I would be able to obtain rehab/training that would go a long way to alleviate the cumulative financial effects. I used a little over 1 year of the GI Bill for college. If the GI Bill was awarded for active duty service, then it is warranted no matter at what point in life you needed to rely on it.

    • Phillip Bullington

      I am a Disabled Vietnam Veteran. Like every male veteran of the period, I was given the choice of; enlist, be drafted, or run with my tail tucked under to an other country. For us it wasn’t a matter of should I enlist or just make a go at a civilian career. All veterans of our time opted to serve rather than run. After serving over 8 years, I was discharged due to injuries incurred six years earlier in my career and during the war. After my discharge, I figured out what I was going after and became a Police Officer. I really enjoyed the career I chose and was advancing rapidly to the rank of sgt. While I was waiting for the paperwork to go through, My service connected disabilities began to interfere with my work and I was released. By that time my G.I.. bill benefits were lost. If the limits were dropped I could go through voc-rehab, become employable again, get off of SSDI and the $400.00 a month compensation I get from the V.A. would no have to be a spent on bills within the first five hours after the deposit goes into my account. I hate not being able to work, but due to my service connected disabilities I can’t even work at McDonalds.

    • Matt

      When I got out, the nearest school was a 60 mile drive away. At that time, we had to pay for our classes first, then submit paper workto the VA who would then cut a check. With what I was making and the hours worked, I could not afford the upfront costs. I couldn’t even get short term loans that I could flip back when the VA mailed the check (and what happens when they lose the paperwork?). Computers were for rich people and online classes were limited then. By the time I moved to a region with school possibilities and was amking enough to afford the upfront costs, my 10 years was up. It wasn’t that I couldn’t figure out what I wanted to do.
      It would be nice if the retroactive covered those of us who have taken classes and are paying out of pocket.

    • BT Mac

      The big issue for me was I had been in 11 years and when I got out I had to go to work. No time to do the GI Bill thing. I was ripped off the benefit I should have been able to take at anytime…Not everyone had the opportunity to use it when it was available….

    • a disabled vet

      screw you you prick I couldn’t walk accross the campus because of my service connected disability that I receive 10% for. Oh oh $114 dollars a month that makes up for the loss of my GI bill ya dick!!!!!!

    • Larry Burdick

      Yeah, you’re an old broken down fart alright. There were no GI bill limits when I signed on, just like I was promised FREE healthcare for life. What a joke! The military has unfairly reneged on many “benefits”. These people deserve all they were promised. You are flat-out WRONG!

    • Larry Burdick

      Shove your time limit up your ass!

    • Way2GoGirl

      What blatant hatred for vets! And his reference to playing with himself in the bathroom? How can garbage spewed from anyone’s keyboard escape getting flagged? Having a giant chip on his shoulder, for whatever reason, is no right to demeaning the finest group of Americans this country has. Every case is different! I’m sure glad this ass did not serve on ANY veteran’s review board. “Damn! What a whiner! … Or is that ‘wiener’?”

    • Aubrey El

      You try raising a family, paying a mortgage and figure out how to fit full time school into that.

    • Frank

      Learn to spell under the GI Bill did we?

    • Tracy

      This bill will do wonders!!! Yahoo for Senator Blumenthal! I went in the guard after service with a full time job while raising children and in school part time, my GI Bill ran out I need the extra extension!!!

    • Ken Bertram

      You’re absolutely right. This is another way to try and get more people into the democratic party. Hillary Clinton tried this with convicts. She tried to get their voting rights restored automatically when getting out of prison. This GI Bill fiasco was proposed by a politician who could not remember if he was ever in country during Vietnam. What an idiot.

    • Ken MMC(SS) USN Ret.

      I am definitely not a whiner, when I retired from the Navy in 1995 I had 5 small kids at home to feed and shelter. I had to go immediately to work to do this. When I could go to school, the time limit was passed. The change to the GI Bill is a good thing.

    • mark

      hay dimstick have you heard of post tramatic stress disorder it takes a lifetime just to get back on track! hay were all happy that you made it back in flying colors but a lot of us did not and evadently you could care less about us so ya,ya, ya, welcome home dipshit

    • Will Heslip

      Why would you be so shortsighted? It was not right to impose time limits then! We gave our time to our country and in our time of need it’s only fair that our country be there for us!

    • rakkasandoc

      Oldbroken- who are you, do you know the circumstances for the people who for whatever reason couldn’t use their money in the limited timeframe. What does it hurt you if they are allowed to use the money? You sit there and think they are whiners.. who do you think you are to judge?

    • rock

      Serious? So money invested becomes a lose because an individual would like to pursue education at a later time? Stop being
      G close minded…no one cares about your personal feeling just because your ignorance takes control of your analytical though process. Every time someone suggests a better way of approach, you try to demoralize then because u did not think of it first or because it’s against your way of thinking. If your so out spoken, send your thoughts to the AP and publish it nation wide…

    • Theresa

      I had my Bachelor’s degree at the time I entered the Air Force. After my discharge I was told I could not use the GI Bill to get my Master’s degree.
      I served in Desert Storm and did not know I would be eligible for benefits.
      This bill would help me immensely. Do not condemn those of us who have not used the benefits. I am probably not the only one who got screwed by unscrupulous recruiters and administrators.

    • Never Give Up

      Your handle said it all “OldBrokenDownRetiree”. Well this ” Young at Heart Never Give UP Reitree” welcomes the change and if I can’t use it, maybe it will have the option for my children to use it like the ones they have for those currently serving. You were probally a chairborne ranger and got your education while in while the rest of us were out in th efield doing the real work.

    • Joe

      First off as a veteran of the Gulf War I did try to goto college several time but was not able to complet it. Why because I had family obligations, PTSD issues and other personal issues. Today I am a Veterans Assistant for a College and one thing I come in contact with is veterans who paid into the MG and did not have a chance to use it all for most of the same reasons. Today New veterans are told more about their education benefits and what to do and hoe to get it started, then those of us before 9/11. Things have changed for the better but those of us who have served Honorable and who did not have a chance to use the full benefit of the MG should be allowed to pick up were they left off. Im not say give them the whole MG back, but only what was still left before the time limit was up.
      Joe Jacobson
      Veterans Assistant
      East Valley Veterans Education Center.

    • Jim Irelan

      When I got out, even ONE day of taking off work could result in a reconsideration of the value of that employee. There are many highschool graduates workers than can push you out of your job because they ALSO fall under the category of UNSKILLED, yet they cost the employer less money. In the mid 80s, there was no such thing as online anything that would enhance ones chances at higher education. However, NO time limit would allow a great oppurtunity to take the courses when its possible, and would not cause a decade of financial challenges for the bread winners….yes …I said winnerS with an S…because, without the second income, our low income areas become nothing more then a puppy mill for the armed forces & add to the votes in a district. WE are the richest, stupidest country on earth. Limits on WHO is qualified has caused this. The worst is quaifying for the colored money (food Stamps)…a pit few with limited opportunity can escape. P.S. Have you noticed, that when military conscripts are needed, it takes just the slightest bit of economical twists to force a flood of prospective military members to thier local recuiter….keeps the cost of enlistment insentives down.

    • ullungdo

      How is 10 years arbitrary? I started school a little over 8 years after I left the military. The GI Bill enabled me to go to school without having to borrow money–that is until the 10-year limit was reached, when like a shot out of the blue, I no longer had GI Bill benefits, forcing me to borrow money for my last year. I can’t think of anything more arbitrary than what happened to me.

    • kevin

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  • Larry

    If that would include those that were under the worthless VEAP program then it would be good, but I never even saw my VEAP money!!!!!!!

  • Airborne Artillery

    This is great news. I never had a chance to use mine because I was raising a family at that time. I went to night classes for a bit but that was no easy task with a family & being the only one working during the days. Now that they are grown I would love to finish my studies. I hope this clears all hurdles. There should have never been a time limit on it. If they can call me back to service in time of war ‘Operation Desert Shield/Storm’ why not recall some education I didn’t get a chance to use? Seems fair. I mean I earned it right?

  • Stan Hill

    I’m fifty-nine and according to Mr Robert Kiyosaki, “knowledge is the new money”. I received a B.A degree in 1978 with the G I Bill and would appreciate the opportunity to get my Masters at this time. I have worked for the Federal Govt and State Govt over 30 years as a civillian since my DEROS. I am grateful.

  • Having not read the bill, will veterans be able to use it towards student loans? I know many that didn’t use their GI Bill in time and now have student loans.

  • Donna

    I was busy working two jobs, there wasn’t time to do that, raise a family and go to school. I say it’s a good thing.

  • Edward

    YEA!!!!!!! It’s about time! And to all the bitter, misinformed commenters above…maybe a little extra education would help you in expressing lucid & coherent thoughts as a whole to get a clear point across. Spewing vitriol at fellow vets and speaking out of your a** doesn’nt accomplish the same thing.

    • Ronald

      I agree. Because of personal circumstances, I wasn’t able to use my educational benefits within that time frame. I always thought Vets were a brotherhood.

  • Bernie Rader

    I am an army veteran-To change from 10 years to O will be great.

  • Rickb

    Actually extending benefits will benefit very few.. it is a waste of the senate’s time and they could be doing something that benefits all veterans, like including all veterans in the caregivers act instead of just those from the recent wars… I had the Old GI bill ( Vietnam era) it too had an expiration based on when I left service, our time wasn’t extended neither should the Montgomery GI bill be extended, that is unless all veterans get a second bite at their prospective apple…..

  • Mr.George

    I am a VietName Vet and I think we are pass our time. The reason no longer matters. Our 10 year time frame is GONE. I don’t know if this new bill will do us (Korea & Vietname Vets) any good (a few, maybe). I said this base on numbers. Vietnam was over about 50 years ago. If you were 16 years old when you went to war, you will be about 66 now. Go to school, yea you could, but why ? Just to take up space, see the girls, get a degree that will be just for looks or personal satisfaction. OK, can do that. Remember, WE are retired (some from more then 2 jobs). Want more education? Go to a community school for Seniors. You will love it and keep the ediuction Dollors in the pockets of our young Troops.

    • Paul

      Mr. George, your math is a little off. Saigon fell in 1975, which was the end of the war for all American troops. Most, but not all came home in 1973. That is a bit short of 50 years, 40 since 1973, 38 from 1975.

      • Joe_Reeser

        I enlisted 16 Dec 1976. I am considered “Vietnam Era” for GI benefits. I was told by my recruiter that enrollment in “Vietnam Era” GI benefits would end 31 Dec 1976. I don’t know if that’s actually true. I have used most of my education benefits and they were definitely “Vietnam Era.”

        • B.A.Dilger
          • T/M Dougherty

            Check into classes for seniors or auditing classes, if it’s strictly for knowledge, not a degree.

          • paul

            retired from 2 jobs. You did well sir.
            but the rest of were not as farsighted as you.or at least I was not.
            I have been to the local community college and some of the classes would be so helpful in aiding our generations young and old. It’s a good thing.
            and no one suggests robbing dollars from our recent returnees.
            they have incredible school benefits and many I know are serious about their chance to learn and be productive.
            Lets cut 20’00 dollars from every welfare scamer and 50.00 from every subsidized housing scammer and all free cash card atm money from those scammers and fund some serious productive brothers and sisters. Money is not the issue,wiil to do it is.

          • T/M Dougherty

            Let’s just cut the ‘scammers’ and give the benefits to those that really need them.

        • emcswusnretired

          Joe, you are correct – your recruiter was not. Because you enlisted prior to the expiration of the Vietnam-era GI Bill, you are (were) entitled to that version of benefits. I, too, enlisted in December, 1976, solely to be eligible for the Vietnam-era GI Bill. I used some benefits, but very little, and retired in 1997, so my benefits have expired as well. Wouldn’t mind getting them back.

      • Paul

        I’m a veternam ERA vet just barely, I got out in Nov 1965, There not much difference to the cost of the government if it a GI bill, Chapter 31 (voc rehab) I was a chapter 31 started college at the age of 50 in 1993, still had to find some part time work. gradauted May of 2000 at the age of 57. BSEE. I can assure you the government got the tax payers money back in taxes druing the next 8 years that I worked and they are still managing to get some. if I hadn’t took the VA offer my retirement income would be about a $1000.00 a month less then what it currently is.

        It also fun to get a better grade then a lot of the young bucks

        GO FOR IT

        Paul BSEE Univ of KY May 2000, Retired electronic engineer Northrop Grumman Aug 2008

    • TigreNoir

      Mr. George, your sense of brotherhood is lacking. I served 3 tours in Viet Nam as a River Rat. No earned benefits to our brothers-in-arms should ever have an expiration date. Be careful of how you use the word “WE” – we all are not brain-dead as you appear to be.

      • SWABBY

        “ATTA BOY”

    • John

      Disagree…I earned the benefits just as much as today’s young soldiers…When I retired I had to go to work to support my family since I was not old enough for SS and also had no VA benefits at that time.. Now I could use the benefit so why should I be denied…that’s AGE DISCRIMINATION…

      • paul

        yah that is age discrimination. the boomers are not ready for the pasture. We have experiences that can be capitlaized on. Many of us volunteer and encoure youth to see the light of a lost life of non productivity. Handing someone something for nothing is not the same as welfare scammers who have for the most part no inclination to give back ,only take,It’s true you know.

    • camview

      Sounds like a wannabe to me!

    • Tony

      I could use some while I work on my doctorate….

    • Frank

      I think this bill would help you Mr George.Obviously you can’t spell and in your case it is better to let people think your stupid than to write something like you did and remove all doubt

    • NOT Mr. George

      OK – first, I respect the fact that this is your opinion, but I just have to reply because I STRONGLY disagree. I had no choice but to wait until later in life to go to school – had to wait 8 years after my honorable discharge. Maybe your wealthy and have no need for the G.I. Bill. Had you ever had to struggle to get by, you sir would not feel the way you do. By the way…it’s “past our time”, not “pass our time”. It’s “based on numbers”, not “base on numbers”. It’s “yeah you could”, not “yea you could” and there is no space before a punctuation mark (a question mark). It’s “education dollars” not “ediuction Dollors”! Wait – I take it back…you obviously never went to school. Maybe you should use your G.I. Bill and go to school. Oh! Wait! You no longer have a G.I. Bill! Um…need I say more?

      • paul

        you must have been an english teacher ,you are really good at spelling and punctuation. so what . please don’t hammer us dimwits tha don’t spell or punctuate well. We are wll meaning patriots like yourself ,thats all. It doesn’t diminish our sincerity.

    • Richard

      Regardless how old I am, what war I fought it, I earned it, it is mine, and until I die, then and only then you can give it to someone else. Just don’t give me the American flag on my casket., give me my benefits. It’s the American way.

    • GaryM Jones

      Vietname ended in 1975, 38yr ago. I am now 60 and went in service in 1971. Some can still benefit, even if it’s not me.

    • L. Carpio

      VietNam era officially ended 38 yrs ago., in 1975. Just because you’ve thrown in the towel doesn’t mean everyone else from that time should. Life’s far from over for many of the vets from that era and the cold war. Go sit in your rocking chair, most of us are very much still in the groove of LIFE, and welcome the opportunity to keep learning and growing and contributing to society.

    • TIM

      i just turn 60 went to vietnam at 18, 71-72 in 1975 the war ended.4 out 5 lie about being one of your math.


    • Gary

      If however it includes the ability to pass the benefit to your children, then YES it would be a tremendous benefit to many of us who fall in this category and still have children in school. It is about time somebody did something for us for a change instead of sending billions to countries that hate us and want to see us dead.

  • The_Adverary

    I would have loved to use my GI bill in the ten years allotted, however, i went straight into federal service right after leaving the military, and spent the last 12 years deploying, working shift work, volunteering as an EMT at my local rescue squad and raising a son properly. I now after 20 years in total federal service (military and civilian) have time to go back to school but my GI bill has run out. I applaud Sen Blumenthal for his efforts to set things right. I paid into that fund, and would like a chance now that I have it to further my education. not all of us are slackers or lazy, We were just too busy with a highly unusual work schedule that might have me deployed anywhere at anytime for weeks or months at a time while raising a family, to take advantage of my GI bill.

  • Scott R

    . I find it hard to believe that so many of our brothers at arms would complain about the government restoring the benefits’ to some many that were unable to use it in time. Many of them had to work and support family’s. I am lucky that Illinois does not have a time limit on there benefits but some people are not so lucky. Many of these older vets are now unemployed and are seeking jobs in this economy requires a degree that they don’t have. It appears that the ones that are against it only went into the service to get the benefit and for no other reason. Maybe we should make the ones that received their benefit pay it back seeing as they are so worried about the government having money. They received money for school that they don’t deserve.

    • Bill

      Served my 20 and retired in 87 – was authorized to get 4 years of training / education “BUT” program ended in Dec of 89 so I Got 2 years and lost 2 years – sure would like to get the other 2 years back. Felt bitter that I was screwed out of the other two at the time because I served – I / we didn’t get 10 years because the program ended. Perhaps “this” is what they are talking about for Vietnam veterans.

    • Zachary J. Taylor El

      I agree with you, because alot of vets had to come home , and straight out the military take a job and work to provide for out familychildren,so they could get an education and not got through the hard times that we had to endure. But we would like to have the same opportunity to get a college education and you are not to late to better yourself, even though we are in our sixties, and the retirement age has changed. Plus it is still hard for veterans from any era to get a good paying career employment. Don’t believe what you here look at the stats. Zachary El Vietnan Era Vet

    • Ken

    Would the Bill cover all the Chapters# 30,31,34,35 Retro-actively?

  • Bill

    Would have been great abput 25 years ago when the drooped the vietnam gi bill cold turkey..I was discharged in late 1985 and out gi bill was ended in 1989, Where was even 10 years in that?

  • Will Lackey

    It’s about time we Korean Vets who served during the Viet Nam war are recognized and included with all other Verterans now eligible for G. I, Bill.
    What is the time frame for initiating the change.

  • Bobby

    As a Gulf War Vet, I came home to the States and got Riffed. I had no plans because I was going to retire From the Military and thought I had lots of time for Planning. That was Until Uncle Sam said Thanks for everything you did, Now just go away! Came home to no jobs, no plans, and a wife who left me with our 4 Daughters. Who had time to use those Benefits? I would gladly use them now. If there was any chance.

  • J.Ortiz

    I was unable to fully use my G.I. Bill (Gulf War Era) because I had to work and support my family. In fact, I just graduated and received my 4 year degree. I really could have used those benefits … but I was passed my time limitation for use. Many of us are in the same position and removing the time limit for benefits use would greatly help others complete an education that they cannot otherwise afford. A degree opens a lot of doors to employment success. We united on the battlefield – now let’s unite to help eachother get the education that we deserve; thereby securing a better future for each of us. All gave some … Some gave all.

    • J.Ortiz

      My apologies… I wrote passed … I meant past; I did earn that 4 year degree, but I am not an English major obviously. LOL

  • Linda Peacher

    I retired in 1995. I had 10 years to use my GI Bill benefits. My daughter was 8 years old. I spent most of that 10 years trying to find, and keep, a job. I was also raising my daughter on my own. I was too busy trying to make ends meet and keep my daughter safe. I didn’t have time to go to college. She’s an adult now, and I have had the last 7 years to go back to school but can’t afford it and my time is over. I really would like to get my degree, even thought it won’t really help me now.

  • Paul B

    I am 75. When the GI bill came in for me in 1966 ,I knew to get on the stick and do something. I worked full time and went to school at night, got my degree in business & Management, and bought me first house on the GI loan. When I served my country I did not expect to get these benefits so I am very greatful for what I got. I retired from NASA in 2008.

  • Tim

    This would be a very fair benefit for a lot of older veterans who let the usage of this GI/Bill slip by. I had other issues with PTSD not knowing what I was dealing with and not receiving treatment or counseling that kept me from enrolling into school or even able to focus on it. But this would be a fair and beneficial bill to get through.

  • TIM



  • Chuck Irwin

    Why would anyone see the bill being extended as anything but good for Vets. It’s a good program and extending it pass 10 years will do nothing other then help many Vets that could not use it within the 10 year period. I would love to return to school if the 10 year rule was extended.

  • TigreNoir

    We were not born with an expiration date, nor should our earned benefits. Some of us vets have a bit more wear and tear, some are missing parts and some have lost their sense of presence, but the majority of us are itching to contribute to our troubled country. Those that would deny a vet an education at any age should check their patriotism and get an education themselves. A marketable education is not wasted on anybody – if an educated vet just stays home to advises and teach from his rocking chair, then it’s well worth it to America. The absence of male role models is a matter of national security.

  • Bill

    This would be great! I missed the opportunity because of family health issues, then kids, then work. If they passed this I could actually go into a profession I enjoy! Please pass this bill!

  • kybay

    I went to Vet Center and was told there are lots of opportunities for Unemployed Vets, I served 5 years, 3 reserve, in healthcare field for 20 years, hours were cut from 40 to 35/week, i have no college, did not use GI Bill in the 10 years, working, marriage, kids, divorce, life, now that I am 54 and ready to go to school, no programs available for vets,

  • SCPO (retired)

    I had more than enough credits for my BS degree, took the GRE (scored in top half) just before deploying to Desert Storm and Desert Shield, then I was just too busy to follow up. Retired in 1994 – without any degree – and went to work to support family. Still no degree today, but with my existing credits, I’d go for my PHD if I could get those ‘lost’ GI bill benefits back.

  • B.A.Dilger

    Same here. General under honorable conditions, Medical. Went to see civilian Voc Rehab about going for EMT degree. “Too old for employment”, “Too disabled”. Be nice to have extra EMT knowledge. 59-years old and Vietnam Era GI Bill veteran.

    • Fritz

      Going to school after Vietnam would have been more feasible with family support after returning. With no parents living for support and a family to raise it was not feasible and the VA education benefit payments back then were not enough to raise a family. By the time I was able to see my way to work and attend school it was too late. With the advent of and general public access to computers and with VA accredited colleges offering classes online I would love to be able to further my education. I quit high school, enlisted and volunteered for Vietnam and received a GED in the Army. My earning power with that degree of education limited my lifetime earnings potential while I was working and after returning. I would welcome the opportunity if provided. I’m 66 years young, in good health and would like to be able to reenter the workforce with a decent education.

  • LouisBerlin

    Bull///// I could get a degree in cyber security

  • Anthony

    I am a vietnam vet, was discharged in 1972, was working to support family; not that I didn’t want to pursue my degree, I just was busy trying to survive. Am 66 now and in excellent health; would love to finish off my BS degree and continue being a productive patriotic citizen. I think this bill is especially important in light of the current downward economy today and the potential move toward self-employment that would provide a positive solution. I hope our Senators and Representatives concur.

  • Eugene Markert USMC

    All vets should be entitled to px & com priviledges

  • Tom Boring

    Drafted out of Loyola, Chicago,1966. Finished Bachelor’s on return from VN. Wife, 2 kids, job. Would love to get an advanced degree and teach. “Retired” by employer 2008. Hope new law passes and applies to Masters and PhD’s.

    • Joe
  • 173rd Abn Vet

    Speak for yourself Mr. George. I’m 65 and a Vietnam Vet. I have for years wanted to pursue a doctorate degree. This change would make it affordable.

  • Joe

    Almost everyone posting here is making good sense with their arguments. As an old retired VN infantry vet, I’m on the side of saving the money for the kids however, I think a 25 year limit would be more appropriate for Iraq and Afghanistan vets who, by the way, fought and suffered at least as hard, if not harder than many of us in our war. Having said that, and as a taxpayer, I believe that there should be some time limit so that those who get the education actually use it in the workplace and benefit our country more than one who would hang that diploma on the wall and just brag about it. It’s a practical thing to me folks. And P.S. I’m classed as a graduating senior at ULL. Would love to finish but not on your dime, on my own.

    • Charles O McVey Sr

      I am a Nam Vet and I am just now finding the time to get a degree, and I have already been offered a teaching post at a Junior College once I have that degree, which I will take and gladly. However I am having to do this using Grants and Student loans because my VN GI bill expired. Oh well such is life when you have to depend on the whims of politicians.

  • Edward Walsh

    I am a VN vet who discharged in 1968 and I am 67. It is just hard for me to believe that extending these benefits to someone my age would serve any useful purpose. IMO getting a degree at my age is nothing more than personal satisfaction. I just think those monies would be better spent for the younger vets coming home who actually have careers to begin. I am not sure 10 years is longmenough though. I can see vets comingmhome and grabbibg a job right away and spending the next 10-15 years trying to raise families and paying the mortgage and no time or opportunity to got,to school. I would think a cutoff of 20 years would be fair. As someone posted above , if you haven’t figured what you want to do after 20 years you,probably,won’t 30 or 40 years. Lastly, I don’t know what pot education benefits come from but there is a huge demand on the VA today. I frequent the Atlanta VA because of agent orange related cancers and they are in near crisis mode due to the number of vets that need help. Not enough staff for all the vets they see. I would imagine they could hire a fair amount of staff with money that they diverted from paying for college degrees for 67 year olds.

  • Nitelite

    Would be nice if this applied to mortgages. When I got out in ’73 and tried to use my GI for a home loan, the banks wouldn’t touch it. They were too busy making big bucks without us. Just another aspect of the ‘Welcome Home’ we got.

  • Joey

    I think it should be there for me till I use it. I retired with 20 years in service and now want to use my GI Bill which is gone because I didn’t use it for 10 years. If I never use, that’s on me.

    • paul

      well o.k. it’s on you.but it’s not on me. I used some of my gi bill benefits but not all,because I only had years of college left when I derosed. I would like to be able to use the remainder, I want classes that will help me help others in our aging community. there’s so much new new information and waysof accomplishing good for our young and elderly alike. Teach me I wikll do it. but no ,what was left unused is gone,because that was the time I needed it and was thankful to have it, I still would appreciate the chance to get more schooling. as you cansee I need spelling classes or a better spell checker.

      Keep your mind open and engaged.

  • T/M Dougherty

    If the time limit was extended it might possibly help those who have been cut from the workforce due to the economy and need to train in another field in order to work until they are ready for retirement.
    I am a vet, but past any age of needing more education. Neither is my husband – at 81 yrs and a 20 yr Vet – in need of more, but not against those who could put education to good use in finding a job. The cost of student loans makes it impossible to pay off later in life. The GI Benefits might help some who really need the help.

  • I think veterans, as some can now do, be afforded the right to transfer unused money to their family members. As I see it as a VN and DS veterian, I earned it. Do they take social security or military retired pay away if you don’t need it? We have people with billions and millions of $$$ drawing social security and may I say, they earned it!

  • Creager

    I was using my GI Bill when I needed it, and still do to this day until they took it without notice. This was to help pay for my IT classes and certifications which costs thousands. I have been laid off numerous times since I left the service and been homeless twice. I was not ready to attend any college under those conditions because my life was very unstable due to lack of income. I reside in San Jose CA where the cost of living is unreasonable trying to support myself and my wife without a degree is very difficult. I need the GI Bill and deserved the right to use it regardless. We should have the choice to use it at anytime we see fit. All of you deserve it regardless of age and need.

  • Wardell

    I have to agree with “173rd Abn Vet” speak for yourself Mr. George. I am a 62-year-old widow of a Vietnam Vet, I was able to utilize my husbands’ benefits for one semester unfortunately had to stop as my husbands’ service-connected illness got progressively aggressive ultimately taking him in 2000. You are never too old to obtain an education and yes, it is all a matter of prospective as to what you care to accomplish. Extending GI Bill benefits would be of great value in obtaining a Masters’ degree, a change would make it affordable and assist in accomplish one more task.

  • vince
  • Kaliko

    Served on AD from 87′-92′ right out of high school. Struggled but paid the $1200 for the GI Bill, thinking there will be time in 10 years to use it, no problem! Before you know it 10 years and 1 day has passed since being discharged, the kids are old enough that they can care for themselves while you take night classes and the husband is deployed or TDY and you can’t get promoted in your job because you don’t have a degree. Yeah, I’d like to have been able to use those benefits 1 day after the 10 year period at age 34. Luckily one of the kids will be able to use my husbands post 9/11 benefits.

  • vince

    I don’t think we should be limited to 10 years to use VN and newer GI bill benefits. I had to keep my family together while my wife attended nursing school and by the time she got her degree my benefits were not able to be used, 10 years had expired and I was no longer able to use them. I may be 67 but would like to return to college and get my bachelor’s degree.

    • paul

      yah me too .same story and would love to be learning again.Local community colleges could certainly benefit too.

  • Ed Walsh

    I am a VN vet who discharged in 1968 and I am 67. It is just hard for me to believe that extending these benefits to someone my age would serve any useful purpose. IMO getting a degree at my age is nothing more than personal satisfaction. I just think those monies would be better spent for the younger vets coming home who actually have careers to begin. I am not sure 10 years is longmenough though. I can see vets comingmhome and grabbibg a job right away and spending the next 10-15 years trying to raise families and paying the mortgage and no time or opportunity to got,to school. I would think a cutoff of 20 years would be fair. As someone posted above

  • Michelle

    I am a gulf war vet and when I got out I was 40% disabled and got chapter 31 benefits. I was told I would lose my gi Bill as a result. I got certified in computers and when I got older I couldn’t keep up with the young people and was able to use the rest of chap 31 to get my associates. Paying 30k for my b.s. and want to get my MSW, but can’t afford to. Using my gi Bill would help immensely. Since that time vets can use both. Why should I lose out because rules were different when I got out? I think the 10 yr should be lifted to give every vet a chance at education. If they don’t use it, they don’t use it. But those who rant to shouldn’t miss out on the opportunity.

    • Karl46

      You need to speak with the VA. Chapter 31 allows you to be retrained.

      • toneyd

        You need to relook the VA Benefit Book, I remember reading that anyone over 30% had infinity for scholl benefits. It use to be 50%.

  • Joe Holly

    Hey guys sober up and act your age which is not as old as you seem to believe. Remember Warren Buffet bought a railroad at age 82. None of his friends are saying he’s too old to play with trains. There is always time to get an education and put it to use. Anything is better than sitting on your butt watching TV. My Dad is 81 and is still building things for neighbors in his wood shop.!

  • Wes

    I would never support a bill introduced by a senator who lied about serving in Vietnam

    • Thaddeus

      What does the bill have to do with his lie? So if he lied about raping someone but then introduce a bill for harder punishment for those who rape you will not support it? Come on wake up. The bill is needed some got out of the military and found a great job and didn’t use the GI bill but now the economy put them in a place were they need it. I will support the bill.

      • Wes

        It would be a good bill for another senator to introduce. With this senator, it is just to make political points to get the voters he lost by lying about his Vietnam service. And I think it’s more important to eliminate dishonest, crooked politicians than to even have this bill pass.

  • Bob T.

    I think the idea behind the revision of the extension is a good idea. Maybe it may not mean much to the Korean, Viet Nam vets or a Cold War vet like me but it still might be useful to the Gulf war the between the gulf wars vets. I tried to use my VEAP benefits to benefit my career after I left active duty, but back then on line education did not exist and there were no schools teaching the necessary classes within a four hour drive. I did get into one university extension certificate program but they were waiting VA approval, couldn’t wait that long. Got into another certificate at another school, same field. This program was advertised as VA approved. After paying for and completing the program I was reimbursed $54 for a $1600 certificate. VA said that since it was an extension program it was not a real college program. Another reason for extending the time period is if someone wants to train into another field later in their career. Maybe for a change of jobs due to burn out, etc, or health reasons, etc.

  • just saying

    On one hand it would be nice to use the benefit I paid into. I was a single parent at the time I got out so I was working and raising my kids. School was not in the cards until later on. I took out student loans and received some pell grants years later and went to school (after the 10 year limit). I don’t regret it… I did contact the VA when attending school after the 10 year deadline to see if I could at least get my $1200 I paid into the MGIB and was told no.

    For those of retirement age, if the deadlines are not extended so you can use the MGIB to go back to school for personal enrichment purposes, a lot of schools have programs where people over 50 can take enrichment classes for no cost (and also no credits). I plan to take advantage of this in a couple of years. This is a nice way to keep taking classes to enrich my life and saving the MGIB $ for the younger troops as I already have my degrees.

  • J Grimes

    Many Vietnam Vets still have student loans that could be paid with a GI Bill extension!

  • Paul

    For all those here that think it is a waste of time, just don’t use it. I will still be working for another 10 to 15 years and I would like to finish an engineering degree so I can better care for my family. I could not go to school when I got out because I had to travel around the world or lose my job, and that was not on a schedule allowing even night school. When I got to the point of not traveling it was 9 and a half years and that meant I was already too late. We’ve lost our healthcare and a few other items we were sold on joining, let’s try to get something back.

    • Ivan

      That’s for sure! I spent 13 years in the military and now they tell me I’m not eligible for any health care!

  • Morbius

    Honorably Discharged 1979-1983 USAF Enlisted Combat Crew awarded
    The Air Medal 3 Oak Leaf Clusters (from Brooklyn NY yea I still cant believe it myself) yet my College Assistance at the time courtesy of the USAF was
    VEAP Veteran Educational Assistance Program ( which I refused to participate outright on Principle) I give $1 the govnt gives $2 for a max total of $8100
    Great program I was told as compared to what the previous GI Bill (did I mention I was from Brooklyn NY) which leads to this if this bill passes will I be some how eligible for educational benefits or better yet grandfather the benefits to my kids since that would be better for me

    • Ivan

      Morbius, what did you fly on? I was on AWACS, have Air Medal and 4 Oak Leaf Clusters, 2754 flight hours

      • Morbius

        Ivan, Cheers 964th RO here. Loved that new plane smell when I picked up Balls 3 from Boeing

  • MAH

    I missed out on my time limit because I HAD to work ans was unable to return to school before the cut-off. If my kids can bvenefit from my sacrifice for this country, or I can use it to pay on the loans I HAD to take out..I cay great.. they have been taking from retirees for so long, it’s about time to give something back..

  • Gary

    Look, it is time the government stood up and acknowledge our service. Placing time limits on that is like telling us we have no worth after 10 years. Kind of makes you feel like a used up kleenex. Full benefits for life. And the ability to give it to our kids too.

    • Chris

      I had same issues, working trying to raise a family and then when I did start use this important benifit the time limit expired before i completed my degree. Then going was an issue of being able to afford it which a lot of times I couldn’t. Went part time on and off and it took me an additional 6 years to finally get my degree. I’m glad that someone is finally looking at changing it for the better. Thank you Senator Blumenthal!!

  • dave

    I got 45 years in career, I got hurt how I got change jobs and how money would nice for school lean a new career I still got 20 years I want to work.

  • Gary Harber

    Restoration to transfer to a dependent would certainly help veterans and their families.

    • Bull

      CRAP. I joined at 17 in 1960 did 20 and retired. It is my benefit, not the kids, if the want it JOIN.

  • John
  • John

    I think this is great! When I came home in ’66
    I was suffering with PTSD and could not handle going on a campus especially with all
    the protesting. I missed out! When I finally
    when I thought I could do it to my surprise I
    was past the ten year limit. I am sixty seven
    years old, retired and would love the chance
    to return to school.

    • TwoNames

      I returned to college at 62, the same one I earned an AAS at in 1963. Had to drop out to work after two years; married with one child and another on the way. So having divorced in 1994 busted chops from 1999-2001 doing graduate work for an MS. Wrong degree! Anyway, worked up a $26,000 student loan, which is now $36,000. No work and homeless. I think an extension for GI Bill would help many prevent following in my financial footsteps.

      • TwoNames,

        Big waste of my tax dollars.

        • Idmtmedic

          So are you.

  • cw3ret

    And just where are they going to find the money to pay for this? Take it away from the VA medical and disability pools of money? Somebody has to be Peter in order to pay Paul.

    • EJohn

      I agree…I’ve been given my furlough notice and we’re worried about funding a program that we all knew had a time limit. I am a disabled vet and now a Government employee so I understand both sides. I wasn’t able to use all of my GI Bill funds but I’d much rather receive my full paycheck than get GI Bill funds. It never fails – we can’t pay our bills on one side of the Government but we’re spending on the other side. Craziness!!

    • USNRetired

      Exactly! Just how are they going to pay for that? It sure sounds nice, like everything that comes out of Congress, but it seems like another “pie in the sky” plan. The financial condition of the government as a whole is miserable, and yet they talk of ways to spend even more money. And just how many young college grads are unemployed or under employed? I am not trying to sound callous here, just practical.

      • USNRetired,

        Yep, you said it. All these people unemployed with an education and now we are going to give the GI Bill back to 2 Million ex military. Hell, how is this going to work. Trust me, it isn’t.

    • Steve

      How about we take money away from the welfare rats and illegals who didn’t earn the money. Way too many of them using up the cash and wasting their time on liberal arts, beer and sex. And ending up back on welfare.

    • estabahn

      The concept of the Bill is Great, but I agree, “Where are they going to get the money?” How about the Prez take less vacations, (there would be a few millions available. How about the Prez’s wife take less shopping trips to Europe? Again, a few million in the pot. How about other Congressmen STOP sneaking in million dollar, pork barrel attachments to Bills? Here is MANY millions of dollars? Or QUIT legalizing illegal aliens and thus allowing them to be on welfare an medical/dental benefits. (Probably Billions of dollars there. Just my humble suggestions for some money.

  • Concern Vet

    I for one think there should not be a time limit or it should be no less than 20 years. When ten years comes most retirees or in the prime of their life, in thier late 40’s or earlier 50’s. I retired from the military in 2003, and I am not 50 yet. I am coming up on my ten year anniversary. I have been working fultime and raising children and caring for a family. I had very little time for actives for myself. I am older now and my children are in high school and can handle homework better by themselves, so I now have time to continue my education. I still have 12 to 15 year left in the work force and would love to complete my degree and continue on. I don’t think we should cut education benefits for people in the prime of thier lives, who have so much more to give to society.

  • Charlie

    I served in the army 1964-1973 I am retired today and a degree would be foolish to me. If you haven’t done something by now you need more than financial help, I don’t wish to work unless I have to, don’t let pride take away from our young people let us teach them with our experience

  • Dandawnus

    Please do this I paid my money then got married and had children. I would love to go to school now… :)

  • Tim

    When I was discharged I chose to go to work and use the training and experience that the Navy provided while I was on Active Duty. I had a family and could not take the time to go to school. I was working 40 – 60 hours a week and was traveling across 3 states. I am now able to go to school and would love to have the opportunity.

  • If this passes, could we older vets i.e. Vietnam, who may have younger kids beginning careers, then make use of the right to transfer our earned education benefits to them, just as younger vets can?

    • Jennifer

      Doubt it would be transferable. The new bill has to be transferred while the member is active duty and cannot be done after they retire. My husband got his set up so that any of our kids can use it, as well as himself, but had to have it all done before his retirement date.

  • Steve

    When I and my wife were both discharged in 1971-1972 the educational benefits did not enable a vet to go to school. I had to work full time support us, while my wife attended a vocational school. All she was entitled to was a flat stipend not related to the cost of school. My salary had to help cover the tuition. The Viet Nam War “GI” bill was nowhere comparable to the benefits for WWII vets or the current vets. Now neither my wife nor I really need the educational benefits that we should have had back in 1971. I’m willing to leave those $$$ to the vets that need retraining or a new vocation.

    • Mike

      Most of us Vietnam Vets are retired and it would serve no purpose to give us educational benefits. Most colleges will let you take classes for free if you are over 65. The benefits should go to the young vets that are just starting out with careers and families. They are the future of our country.

  • Bushmaster

    Retired ’74 & went to work. Never got a degree. No time – too many PCS’s & deployments on AD (gotta have some stress free down time in that environment) & right into a 40+ hr a wk gig plus another 40+/- at the ex’s biz. Burnout. Anyway, I’d love a degree just to prove to myself I can: I’d be elated to split 50/50 of the pre out-of-pocket $ w/ a deserving troop.

  • mark

    I had to go to work to support a family even though I was divorced I still had to pay child support and many other expenses. It was years before I could afford a mortgage payment. I had to rent a room for years. things have changed the children are done with school and continuing to build careers. It would be great to have an opportunity to go to college and get a degree in something I really want to be doing that I would enjoy instead of a 9 to 5 job that just pays the bills.

  • Rose

    Thank you Richard Blumenthal!!! I hope it goes through.

  • Tina

    I think this would be a great idea. I am a Vietnam-era veteran and was not able to use hardly any of my benefits because I was a single mom working 40 hours. Now my daughter is an adult and I could go back to school but I have no money to do that.

  • senior

    Finally, someone has a good idea……I have the old Vietnam GI bill and due to family problems I had to quit school and be a caregiver. My ten year limit expired and still had 20 months left but could no longer use them.

  • dave

    Passing this would correct an injustice to veterans. We earned 4 yrs of education and ought to be able to use the benefit any time in our lives to better ourselves.

    • dave,

      The 10 year or 15 year time limit was meant to be, it was not an injustice. Hell, why don’t someone put forth a bill to give every one that has ever served $50,000.00 up front as a thank you for our service, and then to promote the idea, we will call it an injustice if the BILL isn’t passed.

      • Idmtmedic

        10 OR 15? How about 220 or 221, whatever it takes lmao

    • Raven

      I wholeheartedly agree that we, veterans should have the latitude to utilize
      our educational benefits when we are best able to use them. As a former
      direct commissioned Army officer, who went confronted Military Sexual Trauma early in my service. It was 1977, I received an early honorable discharge. When I left, I stepped into a void. Took years before I knew that I had PTSD. I was in no position to utilize the benefits that I’d earned. Many years later, when I tried…I was told that it was too late. Each person’s story is unique to their life’s experience. We look to education to help us change the course of our life.

  • estabahn

    I’m a 62 year old retired Vietnam era Vet. When I retired I had to work to support a family. I got my Associates Degree during active duty but was to get a Bachelors Degree within the 10 year cut off. I would love to back to school but I can’t afford it on my fixed income.

  • William B. Young

    I retireome in the td in 1983. I had to get a full time job because I had 5 daughters at heen age groop. I got a job working for civil service GS4. Due to being hired as a GS-4 I was required to do corespondance courses related to the job .Was attending fully time collage and met myself coming and going. With working 40 hours a week. I could not do all of this because I could not keep my grades up and do everything else and have minamial time for my family. Just not enought time to do everything. Now I am getting older and senile. I don’t think it would help me know but it would have been nice to do at a different time. I want to thank you for taking care and thinking about our soldier and armed forces.

    • Reb

      I appreciate your service William and thank you for commenting.

      Retired in 93

  • Neal Durham

    I retired in May 1986 and went back to school only to learn that I had no more benefits in May 1989. This was due to the Montgomery Bill. I hope that someone can benefit if it is brought back for these men and women.

  • Bob Petersen

    I was discharged in ’73 and tried going to the University in N.M. It was a poor idea and I dropped out after one year. After 6 years I tried going back after getting my feces in one bucket at least but then an unexpected child came along-and Ronald Reagan came and CETA funding went and so I was forced to drop out again. II would love to finish my degree and become a counselor for the remaining 15 or so working years I might have left in me with an office job. I would love to help today’s returning veterans deal with the demons I spent many years battling myself and hopefully help them avoid the mistakes I made. I think the two years of benefits would end up repaying taxpayers ten-fold. I currently draw my disability and return nothing other than my volunteer work. Investing in education is always the best investment taxpayers can make, regardless of the age of the student.

    • preacher

      did you serve in nam if so NM will pay for state collages for any VN vet

  • Ivan

    I’m 57, when I was discharged 25 years ago I had way too many bills to pay for me to go back to college. My job now would allow for the time to go, I’d love it!

  • clutch

    I think us Vietnam Vets deserve something in regards to the GI Bill. I came back in 67 and was spit on at the SEA airport. Had to work full time to make ends meet, so missed getting instrument rating and multi. Ended up with a job not a carrier at NWA.

  • Wes

    I would never support a bill introduced by a senator who lied about serving in Vietnam

    • Gus

      Grow up. I f the bill benefits us veterans I pesonally don’t give a darn who sponsor it. So many of the current Senatorsnever served and are not doing a thing for us, but, they are the first to call for us to go to war with any little nation. Grow up,please.

      • Wes

        You have some growing up to do if you support crooked, dishonest politicians who promote bills that the country can’t afford. Grow up and get less selfish.

  • William Sell

    What about Us that will be 65 this year ? In Montana I can go to school for free. Will the VA pay me a Stipend to go to school ?

    • Nancy White

      Hi William,

      Right now VRAP has an age limit. 18 to 60 years old. But if the new bill passes then it may eliminate the age limits.



  • Alan Runfeldt

    I think this is a great idea – and I strongly believe that I would have been able to contribute quite a bit more to both our society and its economy if I had had the opportunity to pursue a college education after my (internal) wounds had healed.

    When I returned from Vietnam, I registered and returned to college as soon as I could. But that was before I understood the way that my PTSD-related anger and frustration would affect my life and behavior as much as it did. Needless to say, I did not last long in that system and finally exploded with rage and frustration in the office and left campus – at a high (& dangerous) rate of speed on my motorcycle

    By the time I had “recovered” enough to focus on my life once again – and the nightmares of Vietnam came less frequently, my ten years had passed and I had missed my chance to get the education I was promised when I signed up.

    I don’t care who sponsored or supports the legislation; a good idea is a good idea – and this is a good idea – no matter which party supports it.

  • Nancy White

    As a married veteran woman, I was pregnant off and on for several years and my husband and I traveled every time he got orders to go here n there and it’s hard to find babysitters you can trust, as well as, not knowing how long you are going to be at one post. My problem was my husband was controlling and he did not want me to go to college even though I had the GI Bill. When I finally got out of the army from 1972 to 1980 my GI bill ended in 1986 and my Veteran’s adviser told me that I still had money left. But I could not get it. Until now when I heard about VRAP. So, Women have a hard time utilizing benefits too when husbands are controlling. I divorced him, so that eliminated one problem. The other problem was that I could not finish my degree and no one will hire you in the field if you don’t have a degree. I am very thankful for this renewed opportunity to be able to go back to school. But the job force does still discriminate on older people even though they say they don’t.

  • Nancy White

    I applied at Advantage Personnel, a job agency, in Lincoln, NE and the office manager would not send me out on a job until she asked me how old I was and when I graduated high school and she photocopied my driver’s license. Since this one day job, she has not contacted me for another job. I told her that it was against the law to ask for my age, but the office manager replied that she could not send me out unless she knew my age. What can I do about this? Of course, she and I were the only ones in the office, so I do not have a witness to this conversation. I called the secretary to see if they had any clerical jobs and she said lots, then I called the office manager again and asked if she had any clerical jobs and she said no. Sounds fishy to me. AGE discrimination continues and what can a person do about it?

    • DocBecky

      Nancy, I’m both over 60 (I don’t need your age, lol) and a disabled Vet. so I know what you’re experiencing with the temp agency…well, and anyone else you try to get hired by. One thing you can try if you haven’t is to send a younger friend in to apply for the same type job. Now she would have to have the same level of experience, no more, no less than you even though job dates would have to be adjusted (i.e. years worked). If she gets job assignments then you don’t you certainly would have a better sense that you have honestly been lied to. Then you talk to your local newspaper or TV station. In a city the size of Lincoln there is an investigative reporter who you could explain the situation to and they could listen to you call in, hear that there are positions available, then you GO IN, and get told my the manager there are none. The newspaper and/or TV people love that sort of story and the Temp company would hate the law suit you could have against them.

      Doc Becky

  • AC321

    All you haters…stop complaining about veterans who just want to better their themselves and society in general. Find something worthwhile to complain about, like freeloader government programs, inmate facilities and rights,etc.
    These people earned it and deserve another chance at education, they are not asking for welfare are any freebee government assistance. Stop hating the wrong people !!

  • elmer de coteau

    i served 4 yrs in the vietnam era and upon being honorably discharged, went immidiately to raise a family and did not apply for benifits for nine and half yrs. when i did apply the va sent my application back because my dd219 was no legable. when i recieved my application back a had a time line to respond back, which already expired by the time i recieved it. glad to get a second chance to use them.

  • Charlie
  • Craig

    I was rated at 40 percent when I left the Navy in 1989. I was determined not to let my military injury effect my life and I was as determined in my approach to jobs. Mind over matter is what I told myself for almost 25 years. I have done my best but unfortunately, my injury has prevented the kind of career and advancement I had hoped for. I did not use the VR+A benefit I was entitled to and the 12 years has passed. I can’t do a lot of the manual labor associated with better paying jobs. I do them for as long as I can until I am in too much pain to continue. Usually, I will last about 6 months to 2 years. How can I get evaluated for VR+E benefits or is it just too late?

    • Sarge

      Contact your nearest Veterans Service Office and submit paperwork to have you disability rating upgraded. If you were at 40 percent 12 years ago is it obvious that you disability has not gotten better but has gotten worse. A competent Veterans Service Officer can help you with the upgrade. I know because I am trying to get my disability upgraded for hearing loss and a diabetis diagnosis in January, am waiting for the VA to respond.

  • Ricky Anderson
  • Gary
  • Tim

    I spent 11 years in the Navy when I found myself a single father of two little babies and got out to raise my children around family. As I tried to get mine and my children’s life back to normal I found myself having only 8 months left to apply for my GI Bill. By the time I found a school, filled out all required paper work I had only two months, with one month left I got an e-mail from the headquarters in Oklahoma that my GI Bill was approved and that my papers would be mailed to me. As always one tragedy led to another; loss of family members, loss of my job due to 911 and I found myself living in another state trying to stay employed. I tried to schedule my next class but was informed by my online collage counselor the collage had not received my GI Bill funds. I contacted the main office in Oklahoma to inquire and was informed that my GI Bill had been declined due to none response to an official letter sent to my last known address. I tried several times to get my GI Bill reinstate but each time I was informed “The rules are the rules and they don’t change for anyone”. What an injustice to a veteran!

    • Ed P

      Sounds like a lot of us feel the same way with this GI Bill time lime. This is really an unfair and arbitrary time limit. Thanks for your brief explanation. Hope they restort the program for all veterans and change the law…

    • Joe

      Tim, I understand your problem. Have you contacted your congressman? Explain to him or her and they will contact the department to get you back in school. Good luck

  • anthony

    Perhaps if us older Vet’s can’t use it. we can give it to our children or grand children.That would be great!

  • Tony

    Good luck Vets. I hope they do reinstate your education benefits. Who cares if you get your education a year after you get out or 40 years after you get out it all boils down to a benefit that you earned. There should be no time limit on your entitlement. However, I do think that it should be an entitlement to the person who had the boots on the ground and not passed on to a family member. That should be used for the member who in the most part put their life on hold to serve their country and at some time be used to continue on with their life.

  • Richard

    I got out and one year later had a serious accident.Now 65 am partially disabled would like to go to school to learn a useful trade

    • Ed P

      good motivation…

  • iotero

    the politicians and tax payers must understand that a military personel be it Navy,Marine,Army or Air Force in time of defense for their nation put a part time effort, hence why then should a benifit they earn be impose with limits. to shade my blood tell if called is good but rewards are limited. Our Heros deserve more then that

    • Larry Burdick

      WTF??? You might do some proof reading and utilize your spell checker. I get your point, but I had to read it a couple of times.



  • Aubrey El

    If you want this BILL to pass and become law, call your United States Senators and your Representatives in the House and tell them to MAKE IT HAPPEN!

  • Javier

    Who’s going to hire our non-prime educated elderly? If so, then along with this idea, the government must enforce companies to hire this type/group with intention for growth. Did I say that right?

  • oligherje

    In my class at the Navy “Charm School” 52 of us were informed we lost our rights to the GI bill when we accepted our Warrants and Commissions AND changed services.
    That was the injustice! I needed to be able to feed my family and send my children to a decent school in a State ranked 47th in the country.

  • Mario

    I retired in 1999, due to the different medical issues I had, started using my GI bill in 2007. I was notified in 2009 that my benefits ran out. I was in school at the time and I try to get them to reconsider my case, but never received amd answer from VA. I had to drop classes and I am now repaying the school for loans exceeding $9,000.00. I feel this is unfair which put me in debt more than I wanted.

    • jay

      my name is jay and I know how you feel. I brought these kind of issues to the secretary of education when he came to our school in the state of nc. I owe $1800.00 after paying back the va because the certifying official held a personal vendetta against me. She and my ex-wife both worked in the school’s financial aid department. I feel your pain.

  • George

    What about extending the age on the VRAT GI Bill or the Out of Work GI Bill?
    From 35-65

    • Tony Cabrera


      Although a big improvement to extended to 65, I there shouldn’t an age limit, and let me explain: I’m 70 years old, healthy as it can be, strong and willing to enhance my education. i have a BA and although my intention isn’t to continue a Master’s or a PHD, I’m interested in getting a Certification in Translation, a job that no matter how old you’re you can do without any problem. I applied to several universities who offer the certification and all I could get was a Federal Loan; no GI Bill because this type of certification, as well as others, aren’t credited. like I said, they ought to look closely at all the situations and if they do extend the VRAT GI Bill to make the correct decisions so no veteran is denied a benefit such important as the GI Bill and its extensions. By the way, I’m a Vietnam Era Vet who served honorably in active duty from July 1960 to June 1972 and then completed my retirement with the Air National Guard.

      TSgt Tony Cabrera, USAF (Retired)

      • Bob M

        Have you checked I’m a USAR vet 63yo and they secured govt. funding for my tech. Certification
        Uncle Sam p/u the tab.

  • (CSM Ret)

    Remind all concerned that our pensions are earned deserved, and not an entitlement. (ie) SSI or Welfare.

  • Sandy Oxford

    I think this is a fantastic Bill. I was lucky enough to be able to use my GI Bill when I first got out, however, so many of my fellow sailors had families to support. The GI Bill checks were small, and unlike today where there is on-line college classes or night classes, or fast track classes, veterans just couldn’t get to use this benefit that they donated money to. Senator Richard Blumenthal is on the right track, why the 10 year time limit? There is no limit for filing disability claims, there is no time restriction on my death and whether I get a military funeral or not, then why the time limit on education??


    I retired in 1986 and the time limit for Nam vets was 31 Dec 89; so after 20+ yrs who want to go back to a regimented life style immediately (not me), therefore I did not get to use my Gi bill.

  • Steven

    Honorable discharged Vietnam vet out in 1973 just plain frustrated with the unfairness towards VV.The GI Bill of ten years was not enough time for many, but for years, and decades , of myself trying to balance proper time of responsibilities of job, family and budget, 35 years later I graduated with a BA only to thank my supporting wife and you State of Illinois Veterans Grant, which can be used anytime in a veterans lifetime. And at 63, I feel l have 20 years of work life to go but need to specialize in a graduate and possibly a Doctorate program. I hope the Federal Bill passes, please do!
    It is never to late to go back to school or to work.

  • L E Otto AF14871466

    I suppose with all the new veterans it is just a matter of a new voting block- but this may pass unless we can afford to be permanently at war… What good would be restoring my GI Vietnam era bill I tried to use but could not after the damage by the VA cited our inept congress for a current changing law when I was blindly in accord with the intent and laws of congress? This would be like winning the lottery when you have a few years left to use it. Also, other than social jobs what good is the help for preparation proposed for sat/act when having aced those tests the schools did not let me attend. In a free nation it should not be the case that the civil society is afraid of its free and citizen soldiers. Perhaps we should be afraid of all those we trained here that do not hold our peace and way of life with respect as an ideal- and those who as administrators profit from the disability and foolishness of being seen as just cannon fodder. You can take your GI bill propaganda no one asks for as a privilege in the first place and your dysfunctional universities for the all disability army and flush it for all I care as you sell out the people in stealth memos that were supposed to be the sovereign souls of this federal democracy. Let us strive to keep the peace, so they said, not promote war- that is not the best within us and the usual American way.

  • Wayno

    Okay. I’m 66. If I get a degree in four years at 7,. I’m going to compete with a 20-something? Gee wonder who the employer will pick?

    • Retired Not Tired

      I feel you Wayno, but who says you have to work for someone else?

  • USAF Retired

    Thats awesome. And My God some people really need to lighten up on the generations of people who they owe the opportunity to walk this earth as a free person.

  • RetiredButNotTired

    Those vietnam era vets (or vets that signed up in the 70’s and 80’s) who couldn’t use all of their GI Bill due to time constraints can no longer work at the physicaly demanding jobs they once had right after serving. With social security funds running at an all time low, doesn’t it make sense to extend those benifits to an older generatiion, re-educate them and keep them working as long as they want to, after reaching retirement age (62 – 65)?

  • Derwurst

    If the Senator wants to help the veterans there should be a bill to authorize a reduced retirement check after x number of years and not rerquire 20 or 30 years. I know plenty of two and three term of enlistment veterans who quit their military service before the 20 years for various reasons. I wasn’t offered the GI Bill after my second hitch for some reason but thats another story. My electronic training I received in the military has helped me get a civilan job that pays quite well.

  • Linda Gibson

    Some individuals have indicated that they can’t understand why 10 or even 15 years isn’t enough time for someone to use their benefits. Remember everyone’s post service experience is different and for some people, healing from their experiences takes more time. I am not a Vet but I am the proud mother of a disabled Vet and of an active duty servicewoman. For over 20 years, I have been a disability services counselor on college campuses. I know that it takes some of our troops longer than others, but as a citizen who is proud to support you in any way I can for the service you gave for my freedoms, I say take all the time limits off and help as many men and women who want to use this support to use it.

    • vietnam veteran,

      I have just two words,,,, “Thank You!”

    • CES

      GOD BLESS, Our Men & Women Has Paid the Price, If You Served, You Deserve to Be Supported. This is Part of the Contract.

  • Alfred

    This would be fair to a lot of VV’s who thought that risining a family before education came first!!!! And went to work only to support theyre family after coming home from war………
    They should also have the opportunity of turning over the unused or never used Benifits to there children whom are under the age of 26 and living at home and are trying complete there higher education.

  • joe thomas

    I am a vet, that is going to be 64 in august. I had to get of the work force because of my help(liver-hep c),ITHE VA MAKES ME PAY FOR THE SERVICE,STATING THAT I MAKE TO MUCH.i am tax payer and have been all of a life. what is unfair is that i I have to pay use the va,. my taxes pay for all federal services. so why am having to pay also. again the vets are getting the short, end it seem that the federal gov. is not doing what was promised.


    I am a cold war vet with 7 years on SSBN submarines . I got hurt 2 weeks before I was to go to my first shore duty rotation . I had reenlisted 3 weeks before . Then pop while doing a torpedo reload . A chain broke and it swung and crushed me.
    I become 50% disabled and lost all my GI bill .I was a IC nuck and would and time rather stayed in doing something than sitting unable to wipe my ass .I think they need change the system to allow the disabled vets get to use it the same as everyone else.

  • Mona Servais

    This is only fair and the right thing to do! Get rid of the time limits! These veterans deserve the respect all other veterans are given!!!!!

  • bohica

    I retired in Aug 86 and had only 22 months to use my pre montgomery bill that went away in july 89 would love to have the opportunity to go back to school

  • All,

    This money for past GI Bills etc., was alrealy allocated and either used or transfered to other accounts at the end of the year and spent based on the Laws at that time.

  • vern

    i am a gulf war vet and unlike some of you when i got out i was so focus on getting a job along with having a child born at twenty five weeks with brain injury i believe due to what i experience in the desert. Anyway i got a job an seven years later after almost finishing my master degree with a huge student loan i was sent a manual about my benifit Gi bill. However my time run out and now i although i still have some thirty thousand left my ten years ran out and i am stuck with a hugh student loan

  • Richard Finaldi

    Why isn’t there any extentions on the post 9/11 GI Bill. I am trying to finish my Bachelar degree at DeVry University in North Brunswick, NJ. I am going to be about 5 subjects short, because my post 9/11 GI bill ends at the 3 year mark. Just wondering is there any other alternative that I might have to finish.

    • Jessica Hartman

      You can request an extension to finish youBachelar’s degree up to one year.

    • rugby

      there are far too many diploma mills whose degree is worthless as far as employment. all they are is money machines for the owner. suspect it is they who are pushing for the bill

  • clsmith9

    My situation is like many already stated. I got out and had to get a job right away. I tried many times to go back to school at the same time at night and found that it was much more difficult than I thought. I would have loved for school to be my full-time job and not have to worry about working, but that’s not how life happens. I would love to have the chance to go back to school. I think all Vets should be given this chance.

  • clsmith9

    I’ve tried to contact Senator Blumenthal but his website won’t take my comments since I’m not from his state. How do we find out the current status of this initiative? Can someone comment on this?

  • Glenn Robinson

    This would be one of bills that the senate/congress get right! A lot of vets would jump at the chance to go back to school and use education benefits that wern’t used, in some cases vets did not KNOW they were eligible for college/vocational training. I for one would jump at the chance. This bill could help a lot vets to get in to better situations and reduce the dependency on over-burdend social systems that never really consider veterans anyway!

  • Ray

    After retiring after 32 years of service, it is troubling to learn some of limitations. I am Post 911 by several years, however, do not qualify for the “Post 911 GI Bill”.

  • Tom

    What about restoring the Original GI Bill Vietnam Era. Never used it told by VA out of luck.

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    HR 2169 IH 113th CONGRESS 1st Session

    H. R. 2169

    To amend title 38, United States Code, to eliminate the time limitation for use of eligibility and entitlement to educational assistance under certain programs of the Department of Veterans Affairs, and for other purposes.

    (b) Purpose- The purpose of this Act is to remove the delimiting dates and retroactively restore the Department of Veterans Affairs Educational benefits within the Post-Vietnam Era Veterans’ Educational Assistance Program (VEAP), Montgomery GI Bill-Active Duty (MGIB-AD), and Post-9/11 GI Bill.

  • Tom

    H.R. 1269 would help Vets from VEAP Montgomery and Post 9/11

  • Randy

    I worked for 10 years after retiring and was going through cancer treatments when my GI Bill expired. I needed the college to retrain myself but it wasn’t there when I needed it. It would be a crime if they don’t include the Vietnam Era Vets as well.

  • Randy

    Is money budgeted to an account for VA Education Benefits when a person leaves the service? If the person does not use the benefits, what happens to the money in the account? Does it slip into someone’s pocket?

  • golden12

    Gotta say, Overall, the Represenatives we have elected have slowly screwed us retired vets over big time. We now pay for our medical care promised to us for life at no cost. We have lost our GI bill entitlements with no warning and no breifing and now at 65 the president wants to increase our Tricare share for TFL while charging us for medicare part B. I need a BIG COLA increase to survive this countrys lies to me and my family!

  • Jerry S

    Why not have it available for active Korean veterans who need the education?

    • noseitall

      Because they would be at least 80 years old now, if they were still alive. That would be my guess. By the time the law gets changed and they finish their education, they might be closer to 90. The math doesn’t work.

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  • Lisa cicere

    My husband retired a year too early to give the GI bill benefits to his children. He was in the war , he was never home due to military duty. He did a year remote. I am furious that my children don’t get these benefits. Something needs to change.

    • Lisa cicere,

      The GI Bill benefits were only meant for those soldiers that served in the military. The only reason that changed for a very short period of time, was to entice those soldiers during that period of time to stay in longer(?). I may remember wrong, but either way this was one of the many none monitary benefits offered soldiers to get them to do this or that.

  • joe web

    I got out navy in 1994 couldn’t it use it cause of state rules and regulations and go to the school I wanted also cause the payments were so low it was useless , years later used it ,but then ran into the time limit and was forced to quit school and just work , I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE, LOVE !!!!!!! IF THEY DID AWAY WITH THE TIME LIMIT AND REINSTATE IT FOR US OLDER VETERANS ,POST-VIETMAN, COLD WAR ,GULFWAR

  • CPO, US Navy ret.

    Did not used all the educational time available to me due to; upon retirement I underwent surgery due to wounds received during an air attack the night of 6 Sept. 1969. the Covered storage area, U.S. Naval Support activity Da Nang, Vietnam Was covered by many rounds of Rockets 122.
    After my surgery, I got diagnosed with Prostate cancer, which I am still under treatment. Therefore not being able to use all my GI Bill or rights.

    • Navy Nurse

      I was a Navy nurse discharged in 1972.
      God Bless you. You deserve your benefits and then some.

  • Odin

    I and others did not feel welcome after Vietnam so did not return in the 10 years cut off time. Others had mental issues that later cleared up but again too late. We served why not help those who sacrificed so much?

  • Douglas

    I got out of the Military back in the early 1970. I was never informed by any military staff, at my of release from the military, that they were a 10 year limit on the GI Bill. I was never told, that a prior military veteran could use the VA medical center for treatment. Something that the military forces and the united states of america/government, don’t always informed every present and prior military veterans.

  • roger briggs

    i got out of the navy in 1967 . when i went in i was told va rights medical was gool for the rest of my life. is this just a other gov, lie

    • roger briggs,

      The VA is not there nor have they ever been there to give free medical care to everyone that served in the Military. If someone told you this, it wasn’t the Government itself, maybe just someone who thought this was true.

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    CWO4 Don Kern

    I spent 26 years 1973-1999 in the Marine Corps and fall under the Vietnam era GI Bill and now would love to go back to school. I was unable to before, because I had to support my family with what ever work I could find at the time. I think it is shame full to deny any military veteran who has honorably served his country with this 10 year time limit. How many times have we heard our Commander and Chief say it is never to late for an education. I would love to go back to school to use the benefit I and all other vets earned and use without this time limit attached. I hope the Senate sees it the same way and passes the bill soon.

  • David Koch

    There has been of this for months now.
    I would like to know how much progress has been make. Where is this bill at?
    I wish the writers of the original story would up date us.r

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  • G,hutch

    It is time for this do nothing congress show that they have something between those ears and get this v/a assistance bill to the floor and pass this bill for us veterans who needs this education benefit because we won’t able to take advantage of it because we had families to support.

  • I agree, I served 1992-2006. I did start to use my T.A. but due to trying to raise a family and hold a Job I never used all of the funds. I was timed out so I dropped out of school. I am now 40 years Old trying to pick it up and finish my degree, but paying out of pocket, and even more family responsibilities. What a shame on the 10 year limit, thanks for your service…Tell me the Bill will pass…It must!

    • Shana

      Chirs, I am in the same boat. Was busy raising a family and working full time. I did use a little of the GI Bill but my 10 years ran out as well. I am sure that is the case for many of us. Hope this passes.!!!

      • Roberto J. Galvez

        Chris and Shana: Something similar happened to me. After I left the military initially I wanted to help my wife getting her BA degree. No way jose. Then, after several years of financial hardship raising two small children, paying off student loans, and my credit cards I tried to get my MBA overseas but the school was not approved for financial aid yet. Then the 10 years went by and there was nothing I could do about it. I wish I have had the chance to transfer the benefits to my two sons who attended college out of my pocket. With the 9/11 bill I feel as a second class citizen. It is not fair at all!!

        • SLC

          Seems like a lot of us pre-9/11 vets are in the same situation. Perhaps we can unite and get someone to lobby for this bill on our behalf?

  • Shirley Dortch

    I am a post Vietnam era veteran 1982-1987, and I would be happy and very appreciative if my. GI Bill benefits could be restored. I am currently in the VRAP program, which is ending in March. I would like to extend my education in order to train for the cyber security program at ICDC college.

  • Spc Key

    Was this passed? I would love to use my GI Bill!

  • rich

    It was Ronald Reagan who limited the time frame for vit nam vets to use their GI bill education benefits

  • PBBR549

    Mr. Howell… there an update since this article was posted in May 2013? Thanks in advance.

  • LeRoy Lemon

    I spent 20 years in the military and while in was only able to take one college course on the small installation in Germany due to field duty, even in the states. When I retired I tried to take courses but due to work to support the family I had to drop out. The 10 year limit was truely unfair to all the Vet that served honorably, as family came first for the first time

  • Franklin

    The VRAP program was wrongly stipulated… 12 month assistance toward a 2 yr program… I’m 57 yrs old… Vietnam era vet… Unemployed prior school… And still.. Unemployed and still in school… Without assistance… About to enter my last semester for my AAS Degree.. Where is my Veteran Assistance??

    • Edward

      I also am an Air Force Veteran of the 1980 era and started college at 50. I have earned an AS degree in Human Services, and I will have acquired my BA in Social work this August, 2015. In doing so, I have acquired over 40,000 dollars of student loan debt and will have to pay it all back. I would love to have went to school during my 10 year period as well. It was not possible. As work dried up, I went to school to get a degree. I hope that the house passes a bill to assist us like they should.

  • AnotherVet

    I still can’t believe this GI educational benefits dump hasn’t been corrected in all these years. VEAP ripped off thousands of veterans. If ALL veterans were given those same conditions there would have a been an major uprising like they have not seen to this date, July 25 2014.
    I appreciate all of Sen. Blumenthal’s effort to help veterans and this short article, but where is the full story, Bill No.# and status? What are the conditions? Who is eligible? We can’t write our political representatives to gain support for an imaginary bill. Please, please elaborate. Our service eras might not be the youngest but we are still veterans who have to be educated in order to compete in the workforce.
    Note: Here is the link for H.R. 2189 which will probably complete passage in Oct 2014…. I did not see Sen. Blumenthal’s proposal in it. The title sounds helpful BUT there are NEW terrible rules that have been added to the text of the bill. EX: if you or another veteran is needing a VA nursing home or home care you better have been poverty stricken for the last 3 years or your assets can be seized to pay for it. There will be a 3 year look back at your income, assets and all transfers and sales- like the 5 year look back for Medicaid.

    • Ensign_Pulver

      Here’s the bill. Veterans Back to School Act of 2013:
      Senate Bill S. 863

      • Another Vet

        Ensign_Pulver, Thank you but that link is broken. There is no such bill
        S. 863 on govtrack that I can locate. If you have the link to the actual text and who the congressional sponsors were would you please paste it here. Everyone here would like to read that bill so they contact their congressmen to support it or request that it be presented again to the Senate.

      • Another Vet

        I have since located that bill.
        It does extend time of the 10 year limit but it does not address or resolve the required payments to the gov’t by the veterans to be enrolled in GI educational benefits that demanded of them upon enlistment: Thus, most of us are still busted out, and so are our dependents because we did not return our military pay to the gov’t for a GI Bill that other eras were given. (Entering military service pay at the time: $230 a month. Required payment back at the time, and a one-time only offer: $110 a month, for the next 27 months.)

    • Erich

    Are they ever going to restore out G I Bill for those of us who were covered under the VIETNAM Era GI Bill, which didn’t require us to contribute any monies, I was also on active duty beyond the Vietnam War, I was in during the first Iraq war and finally retired on 31 January 1993. I would love to return to college and finish my degree but I don’t have the funds to do this now that I am on a limited income. I was a married sailor with a family and couldn’t afford to go to school, then my wife entered nursing school so I had to put off going to school again, and finally when she was finished school, I had already retired and we were both working and still had a young child, so by this time my 10 years had gone by and my GI BILL was expired due to the 10 year limitation on using your GI BILL. Please help us who couldn’t use their GI Bill entitlement.

  • Mike Riordan

    I was told while on active duty that I would have 10 years after I got out to use my Vietnam Era GI Bill. Imagine my surprise when I came up for re-enlistment to find that the GI Bill was running out at the end of 1989. When I wrote to the White House, Senator Glenn and Senator Metzenbaum, they said they were sorry and would consider my opinion to re-instate the GI Bill if it came up again in Congress. They said that I could have used the GI Bill while on active duty. They obviously did not spend any time on a fast attack submarine doing special ops. Taking college courses on sea duty was not an option. My local House Representative suggested that I could take out college loans. So I did and spent the next 10 years paying those off. It is one betrayal by those in government that I will probably hold against them until I die.

  • Chris Watts

    I tried 3 times to use mine the school was turned down I was not told the bill only lasted 10 yrs. I went in with my buddy and he died and they paid out after 10 yrs but still will not let me go to school for weapons why PCC one of the best schools on the East Coast

  • Butch

    Considering 1) the government is shrewd enough to put our contributions in an interest bearing account. 2) The number of contributors who will never claim or be able to claim benefits (RIP). 3) The fact that education and retraining are less costly and more beneficial than subsidy, the brainiacs on “The Hill” should willingly make some concession to this issue. How about “Five years from the date of your first claim”? More than enough time to complete a program. Right now it’s a money grab entirely in the governments favor.