From DFAS:
Military retirees 2011 tax statement (1099R) includes income from 13 payments for 2011 instead of the expected 12 payments. This isn’t a mistake. The pay schedule for military retirees changed in mid-2011 because of the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act.
DFAS now pays military retirees on the first day of the month. When that day is a weekend or national holiday, we must move the official pay date to the previous business day.
As a result, the payment originally scheduled for Jan. 3, 2012 was issued Dec. 30, 2011.
This means you received a total of 13 payments in 2011. The first was on Jan. 3, 2011 and the last on Dec. 30, 2011. This may increase your tax liability.
We realize some financial institutions credit members’ accounts before the official pay date. If your credit union is one of them, perhaps you always received a payment at the end of December.
That’s a nice benefit, but it does not affect your tax liability. The IRS bases taxes on when DFAS issues the pay (the official pay date), not when a bank posts it to your account.
For example, DFAS issued your December 2010 pay on Jan. 3, 2011. But even before the change in the law, some credit unions credited member accounts on Dec. 30, 2010. Because the official pay date was Jan. 3, the IRS treats it as taxable income for 2011.
This year, to comply with the new law, the official Jan. 3, 2012 pay date moved to Dec. 30, 2011. That makes it taxable income for 2011.
Please contact your tax advisor or the IRS with questions on this subject. DFAS cannot give tax advice.
Because Jan. 1 is always a federal holiday, going forward we will always process your pay in December. So in 2012 and beyond, you will receive the normal 12 pay checks.
The following payments are affected by the pay schedule change:
- Retired Pay
- Concurrent Retirement Disability Pay (CRDP)
- Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) — tax free
Annuity Pay is NOT affected by this change.
No surprise. The government has done nothing for the taxpayers lately that did not increase taxes for the tax year.
I knew it would increase my taxes.
Yep…rippin mad, but not surprised….
The issue is
how can we squize more juce out of the tax payers while they waste billions of $$$$$ on foreign Aid to countries that hate us!!!!!
We suport dictators that take our money and we expect the tax payer to pay for their blunders…..
It is time to vote them out of office and get a new team!!!!!!
WE THE TAX PAYERS OWE NOTHING TO ANY ONE ESPECIALLY TO SOME ONE WHO THINKS HE DESERVE ANOTHER TERM IN OFFICE!!!!
PATHFINDER22554
PATHFINDER22554
Agree whole heartedly! Vote them out and get somebody who is going to get this budget on the right track to recovery.
what budget?
And who is somebody??? Somebody messed it up! We can'
t expect somebody to fix it. Lol!!
You think you got problems now… Mr. wait and see if those people who u say r not doing anything in the office if GOD forbid they r outst!!! what would happen. our president have done more in office since regan and others. and u know it!!! look at it with reaillity and not with ignorance!!!! and both republicains and demorcrats should have pulled together to make this economy better. But because My PRESIDENT & YOUR!!! was voted in they pulled against everything he stood for which ws to better this country!!!!
you were educated in Obama’s failing school system, I see
Show me the proof, where are you getting your information don’t come up with your ignorance of defending this President who as only put this country in record debt!
You mean the school system bush left him. No dumb child left behind.
Coolaid drinker.
our president had two years to fix everythimg with a DEM Congress. What happened? Lost his way to China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dee, I'd comment on your post, but I have no idea about what you've said. Try stating some facts next time.
This caused a significant increase in my 2011 taxes by about $1200 since I am still working – this include some of the hated AMT charges! I am furious with Congress meddling with the stability of established systems. I am ready to vote for anyone except the incumbents.
I guess Congress thinks that it it ain't BROKE, FIX IT !!! What a mess we have going on in DC. It appears that We The People are powerless.
Does this mean that we'll get 11 paydays in 2012?
Read the article!!!
What I don't understand is why the automatic increased tax liability per se. Yes, I understand added income means more taxes and thus "more liability" but there was also additional federal and potentially state withholding. If you were properly withholding I think it would be close to wash. I think that's why they say "may increase." Jump into another bracket, maybe more money subjected to AMT but relatively minor. True?
Additionally, we got 13 checks, so it isn't like we didn't get the money. They want to pay me 15 months of retirement pay next year, I'll gladly pay the extra taxes. I'm not in a 100% bracket, so bottom line I have more money.
We can live with it as Chief A. said, but it is not minor to everyone. For anyone who is still working and using savings to help kids in college, this "paper change" can very well cause them to go into a new higher tax bracket, which it did. Withholding the correct amount does not necessarily prevent paying higher taxes if at the end of the year, you are surprised by a sudden jump to the bottom of the next higher tax bracket. It would have been nice to have been told at the start of the year vs the end of it. E. Miller
It is what it is. Get over it.
Suck it up. Be grateful for what you get. There's a lot of people worse off than us.
Chief A.
Roger that Chief!
I know that chiefs like to think they are all things to all people, but you don't speak for all of us here chump, and you certainly have no right to be condescending. Maybe you spent your time in the service so you could be taxed to death, but that doesn't mean the rest of us did. Get over it!
We retirees joined with the assurance that we would get the benefits (pay) for what we earned, not by 'sucking it up' or 'getting over it'. Democracy means to much to America to just let thing go, chief a. I am an American taxpayer who has a voice and a vote. You exercise yours your way and I will do likewise. I am grateful and proud to be a Free American. 'It is what it is' because of nonchelante folks who don't really give a care and just 'roll with the tide.' Our National Freedom is at stake. Act now America. Vote, scream, protest, beat the band wagon; but be heard and wake folks up before you stand in a welfare with those who are 'a lot worse off,' ,may be their own choosing or just too lazy to work. That's a four letter word, I know!
WELL STATED CARROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Chief,
The state of our Country is not something that
we should " Just suck it up"! This is no disrespect to you, but the present administration would love it if We "just suck it up", this way they could continue to "Fu–k it up"
After serving 22yrs of my life in the military, and 3of those in
Vietnam, I am not grateful for what I got because I earned it,
and no one gave me anything. So why should I suck up on what
the government has done to us veterans. Yes I know there is
nothing we can do about it because the generals will not fight
for us because they do not want to loose their position or rank,
so we have to deal with what we have. That still does not mean
that the government is always using us to help lower the deficit
but freezing cola at times and getting rid of veteran programs,
and charging us for health care.
Boy, did you say that right, Obama has done little to nothin to help the average joe. He's outa here.
you got to be kidding!!!! he has done more than ronald regan and you know it!!! stop being ignorant to the fact…. look at who is trying to get in the white house now ROOMEY!S#&@$%!!!!!! he is money hungry along with donald trump!!! that's the ones don't give a damn because they already got! and still trying to get more out your a#$%%!
OK, name three things the Great Pretender has done to help the middle class i.e., people who work for a living and make between $35,000 and $100,000. You can't. My 401K has lost over $50,000 since Obama got in office. The value of my largest asset, my house, has decreased 25% since Obama took office. Don Devore is right on.
No,….you have got to be kidding. Our current President could be known as the commander in chief of obfuscation, IMHO.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." – William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Lady," it doesn't matter who is the Republican nominee, I am going to vote for him regardless. I prefer Santorum but it is likely that the nominee will be Romney. Obama has been on OJT the past 3+ years at our expense. He is a ticking time bomb the way he handles international activities and even our national debt. I wouldn't be surprised by the US getting hit due to his recklessness. He is the only president ever to reveal the number of nuclear weapons to the Russians and THEN revealed the number of nukes Great Britain has-against that government's wishes. And lately he revealed that Israel is getting ready for an attack on Iran. Obama can't keep a secret, he is just like congress.
Since it takes more than signature from Obama, how about the great pow senator McCain, it his desire to cut all your benefits. The GOP, started this mess and now they have crying the blues.
EXPOW
John McCain wants to be your next Sec. of Defense… he has his money now he wants to have yours too… I am in the middle class… and my property increased.. because it wasn't over valued… put the blame for that on the mortgage lenders… and greedy people who thought they were going to make… tons of money… My pension tanked to, but it doubled before it went down… I did not loose my initial investment… but once again I wasn't trying to be greedy.
If only the voters would vote all incumbants out there might be a change. Won`t happen though as most cement headed voters won`t vote for someone of another party.
The article is still confusing. It doesn't make sense that we have 13 payments in 2011 and 12 in 2012. Are we being taxed for money we don't get?
You got the money and paid the withholding on it like any other check. This is a meaningless accounting drill for 95% of retirees. To get worked into a lather over it is silly and indicative of a lack of understanding.
Hate politicians all you want, but some of these posts are from people just spring-loaded to hate so before opening their minds and trying to understand what this is.
This is an accounting drill to have money paid on or before it's owed the retiree when a holiday interferes. The response should be — "about time" but we largely get the opposite reaction. Again, you got credited and actually received one additional pay period in 2011 and now some MIGHT pay the additional taxes if it has tax bracket implications. NOT a big deal for one month.
I'm with you Bighat, and NO Harry Kokko, we will still get 12 payments in 2012 and beyond. The January payment will always be processed/paid the last working day of December.
That money will not however be taxed in 2012.
People ,in the long run you are getting an extra payday.
As for voting them out of office who exactly is them? Do you know exactly who approved this change? Also, remember alot of these changes were approved by the prior administration. Bush was the one who got us into this messed up economy. I might not have voted for Obama but he stepped into a mess when he was elected President. He has been trying, but it is going to take more than 1 term to get this country back on track.
Too bad … no second chances for failure
It will take a lot more than Obama too. Bush stepped into what was already placed in motion by Clinton. Let's NOT blame everything on Bush. I don't know about you, but I did not get 13 paydays in 2011 nor did I get 11 or 13 in 2010. We are being screwed out of an actual check by "Somebody"!!! Seems like every president is soo willing to blame "the mess" on the previous administration. Wake up America. We need real people ingovernment and NOT professional politicians anymore. And a note to CHIEF A: I am grateful for what I get but I EARNED every damn cent of it with 45 months in Vietnam and 22 years in the USAF.
Just not true on each account?? President Clinton left President bush a surplus. You don't have to like that, but that is true. You must be the only person who was retired in 2011 who did not get 23 checks. If what you said was tru, there would not be a need for this article! Might want to check you statements again???
Presidents don't create surpluses, congress spends or creates surpluses by cutting spending!
vote them all out. Them is all Senators/Congressmen (DEMS and GOPs). They do NOT want to work in congress on the bills that would help us; i.e., they wait til the last minute every year on the budget vote and then hold us hostage. They announce a vote, pizza is brought in and they leave right after pizza is consumed and say they will vote on the next day. I'm sorry, until they vote, they do NOT leave the capital grounds. We pay them to work — not to eat. No vacation/no holidays — until their jobs are DONE with respect to voting on time sensitive matters such as the Budget. Fed up? Oh, you bet I am. I'm 66 years old and tired of being kicked around by government. They will NOT vote term limitations — because it would hurt 'them' — so referendum is the way to go in each state at the general election. I know we can get that passed. People have to get off their duffs and present that referrendum to each State to put on the ballot and then watch the fur fly. LOL
Keeping track, he has been on the campaign for re-election since moving to OUR White House. Notice the backdrop of personnel of The Armed Forces for his "appearances." The practiced rhetoric with the chant to deliver the prepared script set up on the Tel-E-Prompter. "The Media" is caravaning as in 2008, no incisive inquiries. The Media has signed on to the "game plan," the "silent partners" they pretend? Then the PACs! Perhaps cancel the "election" to reduce the deficit?
You must know that reckless leadership of policies critical to national security, defense and foreign policies have been ad hoc and ill conceived; notably were Hillary Clinton in the White House we would not be at "this place" when "peace" is on standby and she is "bailing," to her credit! And as for national defense, were those interests served by babbling of highly classified strategies and tactics down to video representations of the dangers embraced by courageous members of the Naval Seals and now an open book?
You have never heard of Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd who were suppose to be over seeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who both were National Mortgage Associations. That made loans that should of not been made. Bush on several occasions ask Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd to look into what those two mortgage Associations were doing abd thay dropped the ball. You would of never voted for Bush no matter what.
Please people, get the facts before spewing FUD! Fannie and Freddie does not make mortgages, period. They can't by law. Fannie and Freddie is in the same business as the FDIC. The banks make the loans and Freddie and Fannie insures the loans, the same as the FDIC insures your bank accounts. The real problem with mortgages is taht the banks bought and sold mortgages loans that they knew were useless. In as much, Freddie and Fannie had to make those loans good. The problems with mortgages were the banks and the banks alone. Now, for all of you who say they should let them fail, I say would say the FDIC should let them fail and you lose your banking accounts. Did I see one Hand??? Lol!!
Do you know anything about small business? This administration is destroying small business with Dodd/Frank which is over regulating everything and everyone except Wall Street. How about mortgages which the banks were forced to lend to people who were not qualified, started during the Clinton years along with Dodd/Frank, as principal sponsors of the Community Re-investment Act. The Progressive Communist's have been in charge the last 5+ years (2 under Bush and 3+ with Obama). Bush tried to warn the Congress about this upcoming mortgage mess to no avail. This country cannot take 4 more years of this Administration. Onced Obama Care starts we are screwed as a country. This Republic will cease to exist as it will become Bankrupt to the CHINESE. By the way how about the recent ruling forcing Roman Catholic Hospitals etc to provide contraceptives in their insurance programs which goes against their religious beliefs. Where is the separation of church and state the Progressives always complain about. This country is currently being ruled by a Tyrant along with is merry band of income redistributionists. Do your homework before blaming Bush.
Dodd-Frank likely would have prevented this financial melt down. The financial crisis was not because of too much regulation, but because of too little regulation, and greed!!
To: LaGata
It never fails to amaze me that the mess we're in today is blaimed on former President George W. Bush. Allow me to quote what you seem to misrepresent or simply don't understand; "The pay schedule for military retirees changed in mid-2011 because of the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act" Who do you think is doing this to us?
President George W. Bush left the Office of the Presidency and the country in sound economic state. It was the foreign-born Muslim communist Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II that has been destroying our sovereign nation's economy from the moment he took office. In spite of the danger we face in the world today; what do you suppose the foreign-born agent is doing to the strength of our Military Forces? Do you still think Bush is to blaim for this tyranny? President George W. Bush is a patriot; the foreign-born Muslim communist agent is not and never was.
Take a few moments and research all the damages created by the foreign-born agent and where he came from, and what are his real intention for America?
Do your research before making any statements.
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
Didn't know Hawaii was a foreign country in 1961.
Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
You got this almost right. Presidents do not have this power. This power is invested in the congress by the constitution. Given what you know about this congress, do you think they would grant this wish if it was an Obama's wish?? Blind hate is just that–blind!!
MSGT:
Your statement about the Presidents birth is ignorance and a lie. The comment about President Bush is also incorrect. The trouble you and many individuals have is blurring your personal prejudices and fact.
Mr. Obama is just as Patriotic as You and I. He is not a Muslim you know it, but refuse to accept the fact, because then you can not male your ignorant hateful comments that I suspect are more rooted in prejudice and political bias.
I think its about time to stop blaiming Bush. At what point will Obama be held responsible fro his mess? we are in a financial mess and our country is in trouble. what else needs to happen before we wake up to what is actualy hapening under this president? I voted for Obama but I will not make that mistake twice.
This is 2012 and the year was 2008 when Obama took office…he don't have any leadership capability….he uses executive orders to get something instead of working with congress…he disrespected congress by announcing that do nothing congress…and he is a do nothing President…you give Obama another chance and he will declare himself King.
Another present from your Federal Government. I had my taxes done by Christmas. When I received my 1099-R, I immediately saw where my 2011 taxes, federal and state, went up. I also see where this extra 2011 income is taxed at a higher rate than most of my other income as it gets taxed in the next higher bracket. It just gives more of my money to the government. Were I a conspiracy theorist, I would think that was intentional, BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS JUST NOT THAT SMART!!
We used to get paid this way before, now they've changed it back. You can bet that they've cheated you out of more than just higher taxes for 2011.
iT TOOK MILLIONS OF US LOYAL AMERICANS TO BUILD THIS COUNTRY, AND ONLY 535 TO BRING IT DOWN. STOP THEM NOW, VOTE THEM ALL OUT OF OFFICE AND START OVER..
I agree. We need to take back our country. No matter "who" they are, vote them out. That does mean the Prez as well. I wish someone else in the DEM party could run against him. But, I think that comes under "White House" rules. No one would DARE.
AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fellow Vets,
We received an extra pay check in 2011, that's great! But why? Maybe so they could make it look like we were getting more as well as a cost of living increase??? You know the big 3….. whatever % . They just took it all back by moving our Jan. Pay check to the end of Dec. Slick move!!
I Love My Country and what it stands for, But I don't Love what it is turning into. I HATE the so called Government that is running our Country and is destroying it from within. I DO NOT trust any of the SOB's. Some people want to blame Obama, some want to blame Bush. I say it is all of our elected officials and US that are to blame. We elected some of them and they brought their friends and Buddies on board, some we knew about and some we didn't. The Big question is How do we fix it? The IRS, that was supposed to be voluntary in the beginning, is now the Gestapo of the USA. Try to tell them that, see what happens. Where does all of our taxes go that they collect religiously? Does it go to things that help our Country? If so, WHAT??? I served over 20 years, just like many of you have. How do you feel about that now???
What an "F—-ing" mess!!! How do we fix it! I am disgusted, depressed, and don't even want to turn on the TV news anymore. Our new generation of leaders are smarter, better educated and don't have a CLUE! Where does that leave US?
We now have a SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT and it is really sad. When you join the armed forces you where required to take an OATH to defend the CONSTITUTION of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and so are the elected officials who take the same OATH(INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT).
WHAT A SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pets. When an insurance company downgraded BLAST CELL CANCER OF LYMPHOMA, a deadly canine cancer without chemo, to merely "an incident," capped at $5,000, with policy maximum of $13,000. it was a devastating blow on top of that of CANCER! This Master of the House, a handsome, Male, Black Labrador, even strides with a swagger knowing he is tall, lean, and all muscle perhaps, and that people always take notice of his good looks and charm. Also ATTITUDE. He strides to his chemo appts certain he is the best looking in the room!
A gracious Colonel of our US Army Veterinary Corps was very empathetic, the oncology specialty is not common, and my guy has been in Chemo under oncology management since Nov, went into remission two weeks later, and continues with optimum prognosis, especially given the Bone Marrow Transplant option at NC State University of Veterinary Medicine at Raleigh.
Costs are $13,000 to $16,000 without transportation by air? Pursuing grants, none from the military associations for pets in these circumstances given the statistical health benefits for PEOPLE as well?
Continuing on cancer in pets ….
LYMPHOMA is "BIG TIME." Do not even think of a General Practcioner; a dog without chemo could be dead six weeks from diagnosis. Often there are no obvious symptoms of the swollen lymph nodes then detected by a veterinarian; it is a good idea to check them routinely, also for consumption of large amounts of water.
It is heartbreaking because of the risks only 2% survive on Chemo alone;' 40% following the Bone Marrow Transplant. That math is not "happy" either. But it is much better than 2%.
This people is the political dialogue today. Should we all be on "entitlements?" Does "earned" have any relevance? The Master of this House is ONLY six years old; he has been insured since 8 wks of age and the premium increased in Sep of 2011 from $70 to $128; he is the priority and there are charitable groups funding cancer treatment, grants. Humbling.
Since Jan 2012 payment was paid in Dec 2011, doe that mean that 2012 will only have 11 months payments on the 1099 that will be issued in Jan 2013???
Why only rertired military. Federal retired personnel received thier pay on 3 Jan 2012. Did the DFAS Center do this on thier own. It is obvious that someone had control of this, the Federal Retired was included in the same NDAA for a pay raise. Yes, it is taxable and it cost me $750.00 extra because of it. Paying taxes on two days for a full month pay doesn't add up. How can DFAS justify 12 payments in 2012, instead of 11. Some where the math will eventually even out, at the Retired Military expense.
Really some idiot thinks they got a real extra pay day. You pay tax on the one day early pay day and you will still pay tax on 12 paydays in 2012. Write your congressman and demand that they allow a tax credit for that extra tax you had to pay without any extra benefits. Also if you are into the Social Security tax whole then you will pay an extra tax on .85% more of that phantom pay day. All in all it will cost you about 27%. You also get stung again on the tiny 3.6% COL if you are in the SS tax range. Wrirte your congressman and demand that an inflation clause be initiated to raise the SS starting point. If not due to inflation everyone wil be taxed again on SS. You paid as you put it in and you will pay as it comes out. THIS WAS A DELIBERATE SCHEME TO SQUEZE MORE TAX REVENUE FROM THE LITTLE MAN. Who could you vote for. The democrates will tax yout death and the Repubicians will take away every benefit that the little man gets
Please.
First, no one pays SS on their retirement pay so that entire portion of your post is a waste of space.
Second, you and along with many others (sadly) don't even understand what was done. Aren't you going to feel embarrassed not being able to quantify the impact, let alone who is responsible to your Member of Congress?
I don't come here much, but I certainly discovered there certainly are a large number of not very bright people collecting retirement checks.
This is not the first time something like this has happened, this time they
just brought to your attention.
I agree wqe should get rid of all of them in Congress. I read the book throw them all out, and please read it and it will open your eyes hoow our congress is all crooks.
Clyde
I had no idea this site was politically correct. You can take you military.com and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Hey guys. If you want to blame someone, blame Congress. They passed the law not DFAS.
This should not be a big deal for most people, since with the extra pay check came the extra withholding. Where you can be hurt, is if it takes you up a tax bracket.
Again, blame Congress. If you have a problem with it, remember to vote next November!
If my son goes in the navy can he be contacted at anytime he is not working?
huh, what should you keep you from contacting him? sure if you're at sea it wont be verbal and if he is on shore duty I'm sure he'll have a phone. If he is in boot camp and you have an emergency and need to contact him the red cross will help.
Obama continues to hurt the little guy, while padding his own pockets as well those of Congress and Senate !! They don't serve a single day in harms way.. Just protected by U.S but, they take all the money Leaving U.S, w/ peanuts. we are their monkeys on their chain…. and future soldiers are even going to have it worse, but, even mention a pay cut or benefits loss of those serving our white house they begin to speak of leaving U.S. cold !! who are they ANYWAY !! We empowered them and they are killing U.S. And taking home astronomical Pay and more benefits than we will ever know about !!
So you all voted for those "Republicans", and now you're pointing fingers at Obama. Typical for none thinkers! Everyone will get screwed even our kids on DUTY.
Thanks…
You seem to forget that during the last two years of the Bush administration, congress was run by Democrats; it was the same congress and administration that further destroyed our economy during B.O's first two years. If it wasn't for the Republican non-thinkers ….as you suggest…winning control of the situation on capital hill, this country would have gone belly up long before now! And by the way…You probably meant non-thinkers…not none thinkers. And…for your information…..Everyone is already screwed…including your children, your grandchildren and your grandchildren's grandchildren (if the world lasts that long)…or haven't you noticed the size of the additional national debt this president has piled on to what was already there. How can you and people like you keep avoiding the truth even when it stares you in the face!. Talk about a non-thinker. Obama's party has been doing that for you and won't quit until it controls every part of your life and mine. Wake up Arclight….for one who has light as part of your identity, there is very little being shed on what's wrong in D.C.
I live in Idaho and was enraged at this accounting slight of hand. I am a CPA and assure you that by doing what they did, they generated more tax revenue without paying us any more. They simply paid January's pay on December 31 of the previous year thus raising the income subject to tax for 2011. All subsequent years will be paid likewise, so no, it does not wash out. 2012 has 11 payments plus the payment for January 2013 makes a total of 12 subject to tax for 2012. You only get 12 effective payments for the year, but get to pay one extra pay period for tax in 2011. Very slick. I wrote to my Congressman, Raul Labrador, and both Senators, all republicans. Only the rookie legislator, Raul Labrador, answered and agreed to action my complaint. Be assured that neither Senator Risch nor Senator Crapo will get my vote again. Let your Senators and Represenatatives know how you feel and demand action. This was total BS! Duston Rose, LTC USA (RET), Realtor, CPA
I concur. I just did my taxes using Turbo Tax and just for the heck of it I subtraced out my Dec 30th pay. It changed my taxes by $300( I retired as an E7). This added month of pay not only added to my gross pay, it also increased the amount of my Social Security subject to taxation. I'm sure many retires got screwed a lot worse.
Right on Colonel! My question is this! If all military retirees are paying taxes on retired pay for 13 monthly payments in 2011 while actually only receiving 12 payments, when do we get to pay taxes on 11 monthly payments while at the same time actually receiving 12 payments? United we stand! Divided we are falling! God Bless America and God Bless you for taking a stand! David Marble, LTC, US Army Retired.
I too contacted both Senators Webb and Warner and Congressman Connelly. Rep Connelly thanked me for my letter concerning Guantanamo Bay. Sen Warner thanked me for my letter on Social Security and the COLA. Apparently their staffs don’t read the letters too closely. After following up with staff and getting bogus answers, I asked for meeting with all. None has responded or acknowledged the requests. They just don’t care.
With 1.93 million retirees and over 50 billion in retired pay a year, the change will take about $1B out of the pockets of military retiree. Thanks Congress.
My fellow vets! I agree that we need change in government. My question is.
How do we trust the next group that takes office? If we had representation that tracked the voting records of the people in office, we would have a better idea of who to vote out. l know that we have veteren organizations trying to fight the system and we should all support them. We all have legitimate gripes, but how do we as a group make a stand and fight together. Maybe we need to gather for a march on Washington to show a force of voters they are going to loose in the next election. All these elected officials have statewide offices working their campaign trail and we missed the opportunity to show a force at their so called debates. Did any of you hear them say they would fight to protect benefits for the vets? I wish we had put together a rally during SC's preliminary campaign.
There are too many of us retirees and other vets that they effect to not make our force known in the voting booth.
God Bless America (Oops!! Am I allowed to say that?)
This action was nothing more than the government taking some more money from the American people. These are the same group of fools that have been messing up the economy buy not cutting back on government spending in all areas; instead they choose to cut military budgets, education and assistance to those that need it. Taxing us to death is their simple solution in trying to fix the problem. Less we forget that retirees haven’t received a cost of living increase for almost three years. It makes me wonder what the government was thinking when they signed into law back in the 70’s that took the us off the gold stand? The dollar was worth more and everything was good and the economy was balanced. Now due to the excessive money printing the dollar has dropped in value and we have the worst economy that I can remember. I think that when Election Day comes in November, no matter what party you support everybody should write in “NONE OF THE ABOVE” We need to start a third party by the people, for the people before it’s to late.
The United States(OUR COUNTRY) is the greatest country in the free world. I have been around the world several times and to think back I could not wait to get back to the United States. For all of you that missed this during your travels just think about it. Are you doing your part to get our Country back on course? I am a retired Marine and I say LEAD, FOLLOW or get the hell out the way. " The needs of the many out ways the needs of the few." " Count your blessing and you will see you are a lot better than you think"
Not only did the 13th check in 2011 boost the total of income for the year which increased tax liability; The small increase in the 2012 was not factored in. Our case only $20, but multipy that across the board, that was a great increase to the government "take."
I have been trying to get information on how to get taxes take out fron my retairment check but have had no luck. I've tryed by phone & emails an notting. Can someone please help me .